Incentives for RP
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@Ghost said in Incentives for RP:
judgmental
Rather than quote both posts I just figured I'd address this bit.
Maybe it's just me, but honestly I have not found that the Hog Pit is an accurate depiction of what people are like on actual games. It's just...not. Maybe those opinions are held and meant in the moment, or hell, maybe even in perpetuity, but tbh the gripes and peeves thread is reliably a place where people are annoyed with one specific thing, post to generalize about it and commiserate, and participate in that ongoing conversation. Maybe someone prefers short or minimal poses to purple or longer ones (please for the love of god I'm only using this as an example can we not rehash this here thx), but I would bet you one bajillion dollars that if they met someone who wrote longer, flowery poses who in every way made them feel valued and gave them great story, it would become the exception to the rule.
People are performatively judgemental when they're in social groups because it becomes a part of the culture. Get them on their own, individually, and their compassion and tolerances are usually much longer than you would think. At least, this has been my experience.
I can definitely see how it would make new/inexperienced STs intimidated. It does take a very real kind of human courage to throw yourself out there creatively, even if it's just for a dumb mushgame. But I would say:
Everybody likes fun. Not everybody has the same idea of what 'fun' is, but somebody super into cronchy stats judging me for liking more narrative-based RP doesn't phase me because I like what I like, and that's all there is to that. Plots are sort of the same kinda deal. Maybe I wouldn't find a given plot fun, but if people are playing in it and having a good time and it's not screwing over the rest of the PB -- more power to them. Judging that is sort of fruitless and hollow. Own your fun! It's fun for you and yours, so...fuck it.
Unless your fun is unethical or hyper offensive, or something. Maybe don't own that.
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@juke I don't think you're wrong about that at all. It's not just you. I don't think the Hog Pit is an accurate depiction of the whole, either. I do, however, think that it can be hard to sometimes feel like the 3-6 (or whatever) people who are really negative aren't kind of setting that tone in the back of people's heads about the stuff that might get said off the records on skype, discord, or pages.
Negativity often reads 10 times stronger than positivity (that whole addage about how if you please 1 customer they'll tell one person, but if you anger one they'll tell 10). It can be hard to gauge mentality and I don't think anyone wants to ever be one of the people being made fun of for a desc, etc.
But I absolutely agree with you. Get someone out of their pack and on their own and you'll find a lot of people can be fairly genuine and good people. There are some bad habits in play, but the majority of people I've known and played with want little to do with the Hog Pit. Some of my favorite mushers that I still talk to don't even have accounts here.
MSB is the closest thing to an unfiltered environment that can't really be touched by any given game's admin, so what goes on, is said here, or habits formed here can travel, though.
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Okay! Now that everyone has settled on their opinions on what makes a good game, go out and make one!
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Hey, it was worth a shot.
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@Thenomain Heh. I know I picked up a few new ideas and thoughts in the realm of non-XP incentives in the past couple pages.. I'm pondering how to make it all fit together. No promise what I'm doing is anything like a good game, but I think it'll have some resemblance of fun, somewhere I hope.
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@Thenomain YOU ARE NOT MY REAL DAD!
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@Wretched said in Incentives for RP:
@Thenomain YOU ARE NOT MY REAL DAD!
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@Thenomain said in Incentives for RP:
Okay! Now that everyone has settled on their opinions on what makes a good game, go out and make one!
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Hey, it was worth a shot.
Workin' on it.