New Comic/Superhero Themed MU*
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@Coin I could bone you so hard right now. I thought I was the only Exiles fan. I loooooooved me some Exiles.
Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
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@Ghost said:
@Coin I could bone you so hard right now. I thought I was the only Exiles fan. I loooooooved me some Exiles.
Dude, fucking Exiles is my jaaaaaammmmmm. Never has a character so overpowered like Mimic become so hardcore and awesome so quickly. Also, Blink. Just Blink, full stop, and that's not counting when Miguel joined, and Nocturne and Warpath, and Mr. Creed! And and and and and and and and and...
... and just all the things, yeah. Exiles was the bomb.
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Shit, fool, I still might get a Blink tattoo. Morph was funny as hell and I loved seeing Nocturne go to New Excalibur.
Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
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@Ghost said:
Shit, fool, I still might get a Blink tattoo. Morph was funny as hell and I loved seeing Nocturne go to New Excalibur.
Morph got such good arcs in that comic book. Ugh, it was all so good. I stopped reading around New Exiles when Psylocke joined. I love Psylocke, but I felt something had been lost.
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I once ran an IRC tabletop based on exiles, but blending Marvel and DC
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@Ghost said:
True story: Once I joined a SuperHero game and saw that one of my favorites, Nova, was idled about 6 months prior and free for application. So I apped and got Nova. The moment I hit the grid, I started getting hit up by the previous player of Nova's IC boyfriends who wanted to resume the gay TS...so I had to kind of figure out how to explain while after a who bunch of referenced homosexuality that I missed in the logs on the wiki, why Nova was no longer banging boys. Awwwwkward.
Must have been Heroes Dreams.
And I love Exiles.
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Having played on Heroes Dreams, while I have fond memories, there were a LOT of gay FCs.
I'm a rodeo clown.
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Sometimes it's a perilous life being a straight guy with a perfect body and wearing tights.
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Add me to the "general fan of Exiles" list. I liked what they did with AoA Blink and Nocturne overall, yep.
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@tragedyjones said:
Having played on Heroes Dreams, while I have fond memories, there were a LOT of gay FCs.
That's like saying the ocean has water...
I'm still traumatized to the point where I cringe when I hear the name Lor-Zod....
Lor-Zod and Alex Powers. At ages 13-14
The clone-cest with Impulse and his double. And Superboy and Match...I'mean pretty sure some of Heroe's Dreams staff went on to Fights N Tights. NTTAWWT, just got really wierded out by all the emphasis on the underage stuff on HD.
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What the fuck?
You know, there's a difference between a roleplaying game and a kink/fetish site chat room, and I really wish the people who want the latter would keep their kink bullshit on places like Shang and leave the actual RPGMushes alone.
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Well, wow.
I remember getting some pretty creepy vibes from a few wiki pages there, but I never spent enough time on the game to get a read on how deep it actually went.
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I'm still not sure what you intend to implement as a method of conflict resolution. Do you have an idea?
I would prefer a game on the scale of Exiles substantially more than X-Men or The Avengers. "Superhuman" does not always mean a super human.
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Alright. Sorry I've been away for a bit. RL has been hectic, so I haven't had the time to devote to being online much lately. Hopefully it'll clear up in the next week or so.
In terms of which way I'd want to lean thematically, DC or Marvel, I'm not so sure that there's enough of a difference in the modern era to make that much of a distinction. I understand, and totally agree, that DC was more utopian, and Marvel was more cynical, but... I think that over time they've both become pretty cynical at this point. I mean, it was DC that gave us a story about a two-bit villain raping a hero's wife, and the greatest heroes of the world retaliating with what amounted to a gang beatdown and then altering one of their own's mind to cover it up.
To answer questions about organizations and their backing or whatever... that's actually very easy to answer. Nova Corps and Green Lanterns are just law enforcement agencies. Often, in real life, law enforcement agencies overlap in duties and jurisdictions. I'd personally lean more towards the Nova Corp being like county sheriffs, with the Green Lanterns being State Troopers. Green Lanterns are usually assigned one to a large chunk of the universe, while the Corps tend to have more people working in each sector.
Avengers and Justice League are also pretty easy to reconcile. The Justice League, by itself, could be a private organization. Not backed by any government. If people want a JLA, then it's backed by the US. The Avengers, though? It's a bit of a common thing since the Ultimates came about to have the Avengers be a SHIELD pet project, and SHIELD is now usually depicted as a UN based group. So, you could have a Justice League of America that represents the American people, while the Avengers act more as an arm of the UN as a whole. Also, it should be noted that both the Justice League and the Avengers, for most of their history, were just groups that formed themselves and had no political or official economic backers, and that this could be an option, too. Avengers hanging out in a mansion, rather than a helicarrier, and Leaguers chilling out in the Hall, donated to them by Wayne Enterprises or something.
Someone mentioned the exact answer I'd give about mutants and metas, as well. Mutants are people with mutated genes that manifest their powers naturally. Metas would be all those people who were given their powers by some external means. Spider-Man wouldn't be a mutate. He's be a metahuman. It's also interesting to note that some recent Marvel comics have referred to powered people as metahumans.
The biggest conundrum, really, that I see is the Atlantis issue, with Namor and Aquaman. I've been talking to some people, and there are some ideas about how to resolve it, but it can still be a bit tricksy to work around in a feasible manner.
Another thing that's come up is SHIELD and ARGUS. I've pretty come to the conclusion that the best thing to do would be to have ARGUS be a US based organization, and SHIELD, again, to be under the direction of the UN. I've also considered I.O. from Wildstorm, and figured having that be an extension of the CIA fits it the most, thematically. This way they can all coexist side by side and have some ways to differ from one another, while still retaining their core. We can even take this further and have the Joe team be an extension of JSOC, and be exclusively an arm of the US military, as a result.
Also, Exiles was a fantastic book. I loved it. I wouldn't want to base an entire game around it, simply because of mass appeal, but I'd certainly be happy to incorporate it as a group/theme that exists within the game, because a lot of really fun stories could be told through that premise.
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@Entropy said:
The biggest conundrum, really, that I see is the Atlantis issue, with Namor and Aquaman. I've been talking to some people, and there are some ideas about how to resolve it, but it can still be a bit tricksy to work around in a feasible manner.
This is only an issue if people are marrtied to terminology. Otherwise, you can easily give Namor a kingdom called "Lemuria" and he can be Prince Namor of Lemuria. Lemurians can be an off-shoot of Atlanteans that are all blue-skinned, etc., etc., and the Atlanteans can maintain their DC origins and background.
You can also do the inverse (give Lemuria to Aquaman) but Atlantis is much more developed as a setting in DC.
Also, Exiles was a fantastic book. I loved it. I wouldn't want to base an entire game around it, simply because of mass appeal, but I'd certainly be happy to incorporate it as a group/theme that exists within the game, because a lot of really fun stories could be told through that premise.
Exiles would arguably make for the best kind of sandbox MU where a storyteller could have absolute control over an entire world where the PCs can have adventures and never have to run anything by staff because who cares if Doctor Doom is a flower-twirling pony in Earth 4328532--it's Exiles, anything is possible. Not to mention how easy it would be for people to app in different versions one after the other without worrying about continuity (or people apping versions of characters that are gross departures from canon versions without it being "omg unthematics/untrue to the source material!!!!").
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@Entropy said:
In terms of which way I'd want to lean thematically, DC or Marvel, I'm not so sure that there's enough of a difference in the modern era to make that much of a distinction.
Yes, I think there is.
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@Sunny I wish they would stop rebooting so often though. I honestly have no idea if or which of the stories I really liked about the X-Men, Spiderman or Batman have even happened at this rate in current continuity.
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@Entropy said:
The biggest conundrum, really, that I see is the Atlantis issue, with Namor and Aquaman. I've been talking to some people, and there are some ideas about how to resolve it, but it can still be a bit tricksy to work around in a feasible manner.
Eh, Namor and Aqua are both half breeds, make them brothers, vying for the throne. In both worlds Atlanteans are /normally/ blue skinned to begin with.
Or you have two separate underwater cultures claiming to be the /real/ Atlantis, and have them be essentially at War, hot or cold. We know Namor would definitely go to war about it.
Or you can go with Namor being dead, since he was decapitated recently, and the survivors joined up with Aquaman's Atlantis.
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Namor is the fucking best and anyone who disagrees is probably from Wakanda.
I'm a rodeo clown.
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I was thinking of a civil war/split scenario regarding Atlantis, with a New Atlantis and an old one, myself. Namor maybe leading the old Atlantis, and Aquaman leading the New Atlantis. Lemuria is another good idea, too. Thanks for the suggestions.
Sunny, I'd like to hear your thoughts about what you find the differences are in today's comics between DC and Marvel. Maybe you have some insight that I miss or something, and I'd really be interested to get a different perspective. Like I said, when I look at both companies now, the themes seem to be indistinguishable from one another. They tend to deal with a more cynical outlook on the modern world, showing that even heroes have to fight one another, and the government is always interfering in some manner or other. To me, it seems like both companies have moved away from the ideal of superheroes and seek to explore more about the issues of superheroes in a modern world with increasing political pressures and restrictions (ie Superman right now in DC) and things of that nature.
