Diversity Representation in MU*ing
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@Auspice said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
They didn't steal women. Women just liked a man who knew how to bathe.
I mean, wouldn't you?
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@Tinuviel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
So if you want to look like a Viking, for whatever reason, get that braided ponytail going.
I'd say that's a little dependent on when and where in the so-called Viking era, but yes. Either way, unkempt dreadlocks they were certainly not, and it hurts the eyes and ears when someone tries to push the mascara and dreads look with an undercut and rune tattoos, Vikings style.
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@L-B-Heuschkel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
I'd say that's a little dependent on when and where in the so-called Viking era, but yes.
Well, yes. If we're going to get into the superfine details of it, you're not a Viking because you aren't out raiding or trading or rowing across the North Sea in a boat that leaks for the first ten miles, so you just look like a greasy white boy with bad hair.
But if we're going simply for the aesthetic,a braid is perfectly acceptable.
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tbh I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody say anything anti-Hungarian, but there’s like zero eastern european pop where I grew up - our church is, like, two hours away
i did however get just a totally insane amount of antisemitism from people who decided i was jewish & lying about it
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@Prototart said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
tbh I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody say anything anti-Hungarian, but there’s like zero eastern european pop where I grew up
There's plenty of anti-Eastern European rhetoric bouncing around Western Europe. Especially against the Poles.
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@Tinuviel There's plenty of anti-Pole sentiment from the Russian side, too.
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@Grayson said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
@Tinuviel There's plenty of anti-Pole sentiment from the Russian side, too.
There's plenty of anti-Everything sentiment from the Russian side.
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@GreenFlashlight said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
Maybe it's a regional thing, but where I am, that's mostly an attempt to not to say the words "I'm a Nazi."
That's exactly what it is.
@Tinuviel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
Well, yes. If we're going to get into the superfine details of it, you're not a Viking because you aren't out raiding or trading or rowing across the North Sea in a boat that leaks for the first ten miles, so you just look like a greasy white boy with bad hair.
Not going to argue against that one either. As a historian, it's a pet peeve of mine. The word viking meant pirate until the romanticism of the 19th century attached it to the early medieval period known to pop culture as the viking age.
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@L-B-Heuschkel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
The word viking meant pirate until the romanticism of the 19th century attached it to the early medieval period known to pop culture as the viking age.
Well, we could just call them Danes then.
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@Tinuviel Not all vikings were Danes.
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@Admiral said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
@Tinuviel Not all vikings were Danes.
No, but that's what the ones that invaded England were called. If we're going to be prescriptivists.
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Goddamned Sweyn and Canute.
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@Tinuviel Except for the Norwegian and Icelandic boys, of course. XD
Anyhow, point here being, Norse pirates were not rastafaris. Nor were they Nazis. Cultural ignorance can be painful to watch, read books.
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Even if you ignore the dreadlocks aspect, I've seen people go far beyond that and claim all kinds of very obviously African hairstyles and be like "no actually the vikings...".
Like, I find it weird that somehow the vikings invented literally every single African hairstyle in existence, even the ones that make literally no sense for a white person to even have, since most of these styles exist in the very specific way that they do to protect whatever type of African hair is most common in the region where that style is from.
Why in the world would medieval vikings invent insanely time consuming and impractical protective hairstyles (that do more damage to their hair than anything else) for their allegedly long flowing straight hair that takes extra effort to even make this kind of hairstyle stay in place for them???
And given just how many hairstyles I've seen claimed under the banner of "vikings", it's super wild that somehow the vikings invented a whole lot of very specific shit apparently in parallel with every African nation and tribe under the sun, except one has incredibly well-documented and researched explanations for every single individual hairstyle existing, and the other has airbrushed art on the side of a dude's van to document that the vikings did indeed do all of this.
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@HelloProject said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
And given just how many hairstyles I've seen claimed under the banner of "vikings", it's super wild that somehow the vikings invented a whole lot of very specific shit apparently in parallel with every African nation and tribe under the sun, except one has incredibly well-documented and researched explanations for every single individual hairstyle existing, and the other has airbrushed art on the side of a dude's van to document that the vikings did indeed do all of this.
There exists astonishingly little historical record about what kind of hairstyles the 'vikings' used. What we know is that they used a lot of combs and there exists a few references to a hairstyle that's something like this Cossack one where the sides of the head is shaven and the hair falls over the eyes.
.It is almost certain that male vikings didn't braid their hair because it would imply their hair was long and none of the surviving imagery seem to portray anyone with long hair.
What is obvious to you may not be obvious to me and vice versa.
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@Groth said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
It is almost certain that male vikings didn't braid their hair because it would imply their hair was long and none of the surviving imagery seem to portray anyone with long hair.
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
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there’s also just that white people “dreads” are so universally gross
like, i’ve known plenty of people with actual dreads, i dated a guy with actual dreads, they’re clean, there’s a crazy amount that goes into keeping them, he put more effort into his hair than i did & at the time i had gigantic 80s hair
white people just have disgusting filthy hair that they let fester until it turns into, like, bezoar noodles
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@Prototart said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
there’s also just that white people “dreads” are so universally gross
Dreads and braids aren't the same thing, mind.
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@Tinuviel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
True. But I'm not going to argue in favor of teapots orbiting the sun just because I can't prove they're not there.
What is obvious to you may not be obvious to me and vice versa.
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@Groth said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
@Tinuviel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
True. But I'm not going to argue in favor of teapots orbiting the sun just because I can't prove they're not there.
Hair grows. People tie their hair back when it's long.
Just because the ideal was for short hair doesn't mean it was always the case.It's not really a leap to assume that travelling people occasionally let their hair grow long.
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