@alzie What I'm saying is they only matter when you roll them. Once you're looking at final results, they are what they are and it doesn't matter where they came from. They do matter for explodes but that's still an intermediary step (one of the bunch I mentioned when I said its a bad system for a MU). What you're talking about with the result types is what I'm getting at, basically.
Codewise, I think your basic roll would be easy, ie something like:
+roll ring+skill : <Name> rolled <skill> with <ring> and keeps <ringval>: [success/strife] [success] [blank] <- you can still make the dice origin clear if you want to by labeling or color-coding these, if you want
What I was getting into above with 'automated' versions was saving people manually picking through, ie something like:
+roll ring+skill vs TN: <Name> rolled <skill> with <ring> vs a TN of <#> and [Succeeded/Failed]! with [#] successes, [#] opportunity and gaining [#] strife
This would be the shell command for all automated versions. The code would basically be two loops. The first would go to kept dice/ring OR TN (ie, for x,x=<ring or succCount=TN,x++), the second would loop through whatever was leftover (if you got to TN before ring). Each loop would then prioritize the dice to take, ie for the first loop: succ/opp, succ, succ/strife, opp, opp/strife (I'm ignoring explosions for now, they add some further complexity to this structure but the core idea stays the same)
The second loop would probably be defined by a switch (like I was talking about above). IE /succ would keep the above priority for both, but /opp would change it to succ/opp,opp,opp/strife,succ.
What I was getting into above about how unfortunately branching that logic is, because you have many scenarios: 'I want maximum successes no matter what' 'I want TN successes and then opportunity' 'I want TN then opportunity but not at the cost of strife' and 'I'm a crazy shugenja and I actually want strife BURN FUCKERS BURN!'
Also, you said you had your old code and the thing you did in sheet with the rings was really cool. Did you still have that?
I have my old code I think, but the +sheet isn't terribly relevant since the visuals/formatting were based on stat stuff that no longer exists. I was proud of my Ring thing too, but it's based on the whole attribute-ring pairing that 1-4E had (ie Air = Reflexes/Awareness). In 5E rings are just rings and there aren't any substats.
You may also want a weak flag, to automatically remove x successes because of disadvantages.
Is there a reason why this can't be 4e for the time being? Considering the book is only in beta, and large amounts of content and plot details are going to be different or changed.. I can't see the benefits of doing the 5e version over 4e, at this point in time.
Maybe when the book officially comes out, but even then.. a few expansion books would be needed imo to really flesh everything out.
Adapting a 4e character to 5e appears much easier on the surface then I give it credit for. Choose high or low stats (or averages) to make the rings, skills transfer over.. etc.
Well, I tried 
I think either system is going to face an uphill battle. L5R has a more limited popularity with this crowd, and teaching a mostly manual tabletop system that isn't WoD is a steep barrier to entry. I think this is the major reason why a lot of games don't really happen in our corner of MUing, tbh.
I think either system is going to face an uphill battle. L5R has a more limited popularity with this crowd, and teaching a mostly manual tabletop system that isn't WoD is a steep barrier to entry. I think this is the major reason why a lot of games don't really happen in our corner of MUing, tbh.
I think the major problem with 4E is figuring out what is and is not a Honor hit.
The problem with 5E seems to be that the FFG system is kind of alien.
Why not just steal the honor system from 5e whole cloth then? Or at least the morality code. I do hesitate to use it without some edits of course, but.. that plus 4e code seems workable.
I don't care what system you use, as long as I get to punch the Crane Clan in the beak.
“Real magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn
@the-tree-of-woe Barbarian. Probably a Crab, too.
@Collective Lion, thank you very much.
Minus .5 honor! Challenge them to a duel! Silly man. I've managed to locate a player or too besides myself who played pretty consistently the old l5r game.
I'm sure they;d want to start playing again, and same here.
Cranes dance. Lions fight. If their honor's so out of joint, they can bring their army, and I'll bring mine.
“Real magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn
@the-tree-of-woe said in L5R 5E:
Cranes dance. Lions fight. If their honor's so out of joint, they can bring their army, and I'll bring mine.
The Cranes will make you look like a bitch in front of your friends and family, and will cut you down in a duel.
Pick a Scorpion. Everyone hates them, everyone expects them to be nefarious.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
@the-tree-of-woe said in L5R 5E:
Cranes dance. Lions fight. If their honor's so out of joint, they can bring their army, and I'll bring mine.
The Cranes will make you look like a bitch in front of your friends and family, and will cut you down in a duel.
Pick a Scorpion. Everyone hates them, everyone expects them to be nefarious.
I already have my Scorpion planned, and no one will suspect a damn thing.
It will be glorious.
@jennkryst said in L5R 5E:
I already have my Scorpion planned, and no one will suspect a damn thing.
The fun part is being the Scorpion that everyone suspects, but who demonstrates that it is actually someone else's fault entirely.
Which is why you don't duel a Crane, you trample his fields and burn his castles. I hate how they're essentially treated like they're invincible, because they're pretty.
“Real magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn
All the clanwank makes me so nostalgic 
And this is why the Crane win.
A Crane finds their strength in the quiet perfection of self.
A Lion hides their weakness in the midst of a roaring throng.
Still, everyone has a purpose, even if it is to be a cautionary tale.
/me sips his tea and waits for the challenge.
Eff you guys. A Unicorn horse would probably solo you.
Yeah Utaku warhorse > Rank 1 PC.
@collective Burns your crops with his army, but spares your tea... your peasants can eat tea, right?
I think either system is going to face an uphill battle. L5R has a more limited popularity with this crowd, and teaching a mostly manual tabletop system that isn't WoD is a steep barrier to entry. I think this is the major reason why a lot of games don't really happen in our corner of MUing, tbh.
I think the major problem with 4E is figuring out what is and is not a Honor hit.
The problem with 5E seems to be that the FFG system is kind of alien.
