SerenityMUSH - Discussion
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@SerenityMush said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
No reset has been done on the game in recent years, and doing so would require a conversation with the other game admins. Some of the long-standing, overpowered players are gone, and some still exist but don't really play any more. This is really a good time to start something fresh on the game. None of the long-running plots are active. So come join us!
Something to consider, since you're using this as a selling point of the game now, is that if you do successfully revive the game and things get active/running again, is that a lot of those dinos / overpowered people / long-running plots will see that activity rearing its head, and once it's up and going again, they come back and stomp all over everything again.
This is a very standard cycle for games with this sort of -- situation. The problems all go inactive, so without those problems, a chosen few manage to get things swinging again. As soon as things start swinging again, the problems swoop back in because now there's a playground for them to mess up / dominate again. If you want to make it stick, you have to actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, rather than assuming the inactivity is a solution. It's not.
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To tack on a little to @Sunny's points, another thing that desperately needs to be done is some kind of... anything. If all you're interested in is players making their own fun, that's fine... but staff need to get that ball rolling, as backwards as that might seem. Folks aren't likely to stick around if the only RP they get is talking to the same five people over and over while the ship flies from one planet to the next because they have to constantly run cargo or they can't afford fuel to constantly run cargo to afford fuel to const...
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@SerenityMush A reboot doesn't require MUSH code, just a pull of the story back to 0. New characters, new plots. Basically... wiping out all the 'dinosaurs' that are still benefiting from whatever went on during the original run that new characters no longer have access to. Putting everyone on an even playing field, so to speak.
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@Too-Old-For-This Knowing the shitshow SerenityMUSH code was last I saw it... somehow, something will break if you wipe all the stats and remove all the gear and all that jazz.
He/Him
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The main comment I have is that it seems rather silly to make Companions require preapproval/special permission. Alliance, sure. They are the 'good guys' or in this case the bad guys.
On an 18+ game and with proper files people who app a Companion (lets face it, most understand what a Companion is when they join a fan-based game) without needing to explain why they want to play a certain concept before even setting it up. You've got a file explaining what a Companion /is/. So, the extra step seems very redundant. I likely told this to Mal years ago too.
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@icanbeyourmuse said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
The main comment I have is that it seems rather silly to make Companions require preapproval/special permission.
There were two main reasons I got when I also raised this point... many moons ago, during my own special permission seeking mission.
- They wanted to assess and be sure of the maturity of the players handling such a delicate position. (Phrasing.)
- It was Inara's special thing of the week, so do what she says.
He/Him
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@Tinuviel Fair enough!
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@Tinuviel Inara was... a special person. Boy do I have stories about some of the stuff that happened. But, personally, I would have put more consideration in the people who played the nobles on the game than the Companions. People are going to be idiots regardless of what they play. Some can fake it quite well too.
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But what Inara wanted goes.
Which is how the game ended up pretty much happy fun pirate time, isn't it?
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@SerenityMush said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
We (Zoe and River, the newest admins on Serenity) have been following this discussion with great interest.
As a friendly warning: Don't take Soapbox too seriously. Listen and nod and stroke your chin, but if you give anyone here half a reason they will critique you to the ground if you so much as enjoy the same breakfast cereal as Inara's player.
“If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
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@Cupcake said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
An Ares/FS3 version would set my heart pitter-patter.
Yeah, what brings me to the Firefly setting are the stories. Coded space? Gear? Money? Cargo runs? No thank you.
All that stuff gets in the way for me. Just give me a grid and a simple skills system (FS3, Fate, whatever) and let me tell stories. I could set up an Ares game like that for someone in an hour. I just don't want to run it, or write a ton of custom code for systems I have a philosophical objection to
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To me, at least, Firefly is a setting best-used with small groups rather than public MU*s.
He/Him
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Unpopular opinion, but kind of enjoyed the coded stuff. It gave more to the story.
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@BlackDahlia In what way(s)?
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@BlackDahlia said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
Unpopular opinion, but kind of enjoyed the coded stuff. It gave more to the story.
I concur. And would love the space code, if nothing else, for other space shenanigans. More later!
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@Thenomain said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
As a friendly warning: Don't take Soapbox too seriously. Listen and nod and stroke your chin, but if you give anyone here half a reason they will critique you to the ground if you so much as enjoy the same breakfast cereal as Inara's player.
Thanks. This is why I said we'd really like to see people come engage with us on the game. There are miles of difference between how things get discussed on a forum like this, and within the game itself.
-- Zoe
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@Thenomain said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
so much as enjoy the same breakfast cereal as Inara's player.
Damn, I'm out of Spite-Os too.
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@SerenityMush said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
Full disclosure - we don't have full admin powers on the game yet, so we're limited in what we can do.
Aaaand that's a huge warning sign for me, right there. You seem to have the best intentions in the world and I respect that. But until you are paying for the server and in possession of the code and database, all the good intentions in the world don't count for much.
It would be the easiest thing in the world for the previous management to let you rebuild a player base and then take over again.
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Not a huge sign, but a concern.
Advice steps!
- Get admin pass for the shell and #1, for reasons explained above.
- Discuss with current playerbase the plans. Maybe vote? The last bbpost on board 1 is almost a year old. In fact MOST of the bbposts are a year+ old.
- That reboot idea is at the top of MY list, but is up to you all and should have a high acceptance rate among current players if you want to go that way. If you do, maybe offer a small boon to current players making the jump. ACTIVITY only lists... like. 7 PCs around for the last week, if I am reading it right, so getting a consensus should be easy.
- I love the space stuff. 9/10 to keep, with the 1/10 to figure out how to get HSpace 5 working, instead. Reminder to everyone that Serenity is essentially the 10th character on the show.
- Guns and stuff could maybe be looked into. While I love digging into the nitty gritty of ships? Guns I would prefer to just be generic. Pistol does x, pistol with mod does x+1... could be cheaper to buy it with the mod already, but no mechanical difference of factory installed vs you doing it. That's just me, and I could take or leave this one either way.
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I know that my opinion won't be popular, especially with the people who might be feeling nostalgic (which includes me, just to say), but I think breaking away from Mal and Inara entirely and starting a new Firefly-themed game would be for the best. The first advantage would be getting rid of the stench those two and their buddies left, one that apparently is deterring at least one person from joining. Secondly, an entirely fresh database without the code bloat would be awesome. FS3 would be nice because you can code in weapons and such and people can then select from that whenever they're gearing up for a fight. Thirdly, it'd get everyone on an even keel. No having to compete with the few dinosaurs that might be lingering with their twenty gazillion xp poured into their stats and shit.
