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    • Ganymede
      Ganymede Admin last edited by

      Sometimes, people we like cross the line. This is what happened in the Politics area.

      No matter how heated a discussion becomes in an area that isn't the Hog Pit, accusing someone of being a murder or rape sympathizer is right out. I don't think I need to elaborate on why.

      We all may have strong feelings on any nation's military and their role in atrocities across the world and history, but stick to what has happened and who did it rather than suggest that another person actively supports such actions.

      Speaking of the Hog Pit, there are lines in there that cannot be crossed. The Politics area is just like any other part of this forum, though, which means that one should avoid personal attacks.

      I hope that my direct language here illustrates how disappointed I am in having to take any action to begin with.

      “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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      • SixRegrets
        SixRegrets @Ganymede last edited by SixRegrets

        While I agree that what Rinel (I do not know this person and am unaware of their previous posting history) said in that particular post was inappropriate, a ban seems unjustified, unless there are posts in that thread that were removed. You have other tools at your disposal, such as editing people's posts, temporary suspensions, etc.

        If Rinel had actually accused the other person of particular things, sure, but for having particular sympathies?

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        • Jennkryst
          Jennkryst Banned last edited by Jennkryst

          Heated statements aside, I can understand HALF of the accusation. Kinda. Sorta. But I am a dumb tuba player, so I dunno. This is not the place to discuss it, though.

          Alas, when the thread was locked, cooler heads could not go back and edit the posts. Incidentally, we also cannot see the edit history of posts that WERE changed.

          Edit: it's possible something is messed up on my end, I can't check edit history on unlocked threads, either.

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          • Ominous
            Ominous @Jennkryst last edited by

            @jennkryst said in Rinel banned:

            Edit: it's possible something is messed up on my end, I can't check edit history on unlocked threads, either.

            I think the feature has been turned off for a little while now.

            Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

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            • Ganymede
              Ganymede Admin @SixRegrets last edited by Ganymede

              @sixregrets said in Rinel banned:

              You have other tools at your disposal, such as editing people's posts, temporary suspensions, etc.

              Editing a person's post does not address the harm that was caused, which was the statement in the first place. Temporary suspensions are, in my opinion, pointless. Rinel, who has posted here a while and is someone who I know understands that there are boundaries which cannot be crossed, knows the rules here.

              If you were unaware, another rule is don't make me fucking work. This is a tongue-in-cheek way of saying that if I have to address an issue, I am going to do so and it may be in a way that is as direct and final as possible.

              Be advised that I do not sit on this place consistently and have no interest in constantly policing it to make sure that people who know the rules, or ought to know them, are staying within the lines.

              If Rinel had actually accused the other person of particular things, sure, but for having particular sympathies?

              I concur that there is a difference between accusing someone of being a murder-sympathizer and a murderer, but in both cases you are attacking the person in your argument. And while there are certain personal insults which have been overlooked as innocuous -- e.g., you're an idiot; you're stupid -- the general rule for anywhere but the Hog Pit is to attack an idea, not a person.

              If anyone wants to debate whether my strict approach is justified or not, please feel free to PM me about it. I do not feel inclined to engage in a public conversation about it at this time.

              “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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              • Ominous
                Ominous last edited by Ominous

                Farewell, Smol Birb. You flew too close to the sun.

                If the sun was a burning ball of headaches.

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                Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

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                • Jennkryst
                  Jennkryst Banned last edited by

                  The only cure for that headache is to just join all the WoD games and

                  smol birb scream

                  for mummies and/or sky pirates.

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