@Roz Thanks! Merging into the one in MC is fine, too.

@Derp I haven't played on MUDs in a long while so maybe this is why. In smaller groups you end up getting a lot more leeway. Oddly enough you also see a whole lot less special snowflake crap in spite of the fact that you have a whole lot more license to be a special snowflake; it's paradoxical, almost

@Derp said in The Fate of MUSHdom:

It's just becoming more exclusive and tribal.

Like everything else in society.

@faraday said in If you work hard, son, maybe someday you'll RP:

A vibrant community of folks who RP with emotes on MMOs.

Can confirm, came back to MU*s from that. Don't miss the ultra toxic, alt-right take-over of at least European WoW servers one bit.

Tangential to the question at hand, but I just figured I'd toss out there that doing a full-blown chargen system in Ares is a big undertaking, but just adding something to record stats in the web portal is trivial. You could adapt the web goals tutorial pretty easily for that and just make it a staff-only command to edit the list of stats.

To the original point - it depends on the game, and how much friction is caused by having to figure out die pools and such manually. On some games it works fine. On others it would be a dealbreaker.

@ZombieGenesis I would loooove some Ravenloft. Like something in Mordentshire or Darkon.

@Lotherio Good luck. What sort of place will it be when it's finished? I might be interested in having a look at it.

Back on the original subject, there is, regrettably, no "perfect" Star Wars game system, but D6 got as close to the feel of the Star Wars galaxy as any system ever has to date, and, even with its foibles, is still the most accessible outside of MUSHing, and the easiest to learn.

FFG is almost as good, but has its own issues; I've only ever seen one FFG Star Wars MUSH come to fruition, and it died in less than a year (it was a niche sort of game, admittedly, or it might've lasted longer). A second, earlier game never got off the ground; the creator got disenchanted with the system a few months later, and tried to solicit interest in making it a SWSE game instead, but got no bites. The system code that was used in the first game was apparently very tricky, and was never quite in tune with the on-paper game system, though it got close. I think I heard that it was built from a GeneSys system for a different MUSH, which works just slightly differently than the FFG Star Wars system.

@Seraphim73 said in Preference for IC Time On A Modern(ish) Game:

@Coin Yes, I know, for those south of the equator that doesn't work as well. Yes, it's cartographic imperialism.

fist shake

I once had a particularly hostile work boss tell me that I "made things difficult for myself" like I had some kind of magical way to control my brain chemistry.

@Apollonius Belatedly, my attempt to make a new Fading Suns game got to the point of being given full access to the code from previous games, renting a server for a year and building most of the grid along with writing tens of thousands of words of theme files. I even made some neat map graphics and similar.

But I also suffer from chronic severe depression and the person who volunteered to help with some of their (awesome) code had other priorities. So it never got anywhere, mostly for the first reason. I can certainly help out with projects but not head them given I am 100% guaranteed to burn out if I try that.

Mmm, at the risk of re-awakening this... I don't look at MSB very often, so I didn't see this thread before; but from the specific details given on here, especially in certain of the earliest posts, I'm 98% sure this is the person who afflicted us a few years ago on Game of Bones. Made ridiculous overblown male concepts that smashed together various extravagant and incompatible bits of theme, broke the spirit of that very laissez-faire MU*'s minimal rules, then the minute he was gently asked if he could maybe not do that so much, please, he vandalised the game wiki and ran away issuing a stream of personal threats based on his vaunted IT skills.

Apparently he just recurs every so often. Blah.

My preference in general is for competing factions within a larger war. I generally prefer the politics to be Character vs Character and the combat to be Character vs Environment. I think that this generally means that there are fewer CvC deaths, which tend to be the ones that cause the most disgruntlement and calls of favoritism (you’re going to get disgruntlement and calls of favoritism even if the characters are just competing over a seat on a bench).

I don't like to show my soft underbelly to you fucking fuckers, but thank you for this. 🙂

And thank you to all the players who hang out, play, chat, whatever. Your friends appreciate you!

@Chet said in Wolfenstein MUSH?:

Well, if we have horror, sci-fi, and diesel, that could be a troll heavy environment.

Perhaps, we will need to apply the logic of Eric Cartman, Fuck It Mountain, the son of a wrestling team member.

We must adapt the comedy to the game, but as a series of three measures in discussion.

First, simulacrum: approach as diminuitive, to force the problem to show itself as a display of its strength, truly its weakness.

Then, the subversion, the movement to achieve dominance over the display of strength, by approaching with the inverse, the opposite concept in the abstract.

Finally, the counter, the defeat of the problem and the learned solution, the disabling of the displayed weakness with the inversion's conclusion form, our policy.

So, what is the weakness to a troll in terms of an Axis player (and there are more than three) that wants to be offensive, in their comedy. What can we find, if we force them to display this as their primary trait (with the proper courtesy of doing the same as Allies, a separate discussion), then applying the inversion of the logic to their consequence, for the policy solution, the gameplay factor in the theme?

Almost everything you said here went right over my head. Game idea doesn't appeal to me at all, though.

@peasoupling said in Arx's Elevation Situation:

@Roz said in Arx's Elevation Situation:

@peasoupling said in Arx's Elevation Situation:

@Groth said in Arx's Elevation Situation:

That doesn't need to be the cost at all. Even if baronies no longer exist as organisations, you're still perfectly capable of playing a poor member of a noble family and you could still be appointed the Baron of three pig herders and a horse if you want to without that needing to be an org.

Wait, can you play a Baron without there being an actual baron-level org? Is that an actual thing? I don't know, I'm asking.

It's not an actual thing in the current structure. Groth is suggesting the structure could be changed.

Oh! That should reduce staff workload, at least. Since you're typically already in the higher-ranking orgs as well, I'm not sure what the overall effect would be besides that.

I dunno if it would reduce it. The problem with things like, "we'll just handwave it, we don't need to get the mechanical background for it" is the moment that stuff comes up, it's worse than as if we hadn't done it before and means I need to retroactively add it all or the player is just told they can't do what their character really should be able to do. It would be a lot like if someone is told they are a powerful merchant family, but we'll just handwave their income since no need to really do it. Then they want to spend money later for a plot, so we're trying to determine how much that is compared to other people, and invent a lot of numbers. It can just introduce a lot of problems of ambiguity that don't exist if it's already defined mechanically.

I haven't played any other genres in a while but, at least with supers, you have many of the same players playing on multiple supers games. Sometimes they play as different characters, sometimes the same exact one. Regardless, having a character on every supers game currently running is not unusual. Variety is the spice of life and all that.

I agree with most of that which has been said!

I often use breadcrumbs too. The plot takes as long as it does but breadcrumb scenes happen anywhere, anytime I need something to have happened that either was caused by the players' actions or was not prevented by them, or just happened. Those can involve random players and may never be picked up by them, or might.

The breadcrumbs draw new faces in, or bring the plot back to the attention of the player base, and make it clear that sometimes they have to act.

Fucking awesome.