Well, this sums up why I RP
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@L-B-Heuschkel said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
We roleplay for the entertainz, after all -- not to meet critical acclaim. [...] Mush poses don't have the structural support to survive a meeting with a literary editor. [...] The only kind of judgement that's really fair to pass on mush prose is whether it was entertaining to write and to read, which is a very personal thing. I monitor some characters' scenes like a hawk because they do really interesting stuff; their prose may not pass the Hemingway test but hot damn, they can tell a story.
I mean.
Do you not ever have writing crushes on MU*? Golly, I do.
I'll be in a scene and suddenly some rando will drop this three paragraph beauty that isn't just engaging and enjoyable to read but pretty. The flow! The verbage! They used one of my favourite words: quagmire! Egads, I'm in love.
I 100% will fall for players who know how to prose. And I 100% do try to live up to my own standards, even if I know I can't be perfect.
I am always trying to show off and flex.
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@Kestrel And learn.
Someone drops a three paragraph bomb of beauty on me I am going to take that sucker apart and see what makes it so gorgeous. I'm going to stare at it until it burns itself into my brain, allowing me to return the favour.
Nobody's perfect. But some mush writers do stuff with words that's pure magic.
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logs don't always get posted because log editing sucks.
I do post all my Ares scenes (unless they're just TS >.>) because it's easier to do.
I had a scene the other day on a non-Ares game that might've been fun to see posted but neither of us wanted to edit a log.
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@Auspice Ares rocks, and this is indeed one of the reasons why. I recall editing pages of pages of prompts and game code out of logs by hand and yes, I'll cede that that might be one reason to only bother with the important bits.
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@L-B-Heuschkel said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Auspice Ares rocks, and this is indeed one of the reasons why. I recall editing pages of pages of prompts and game code out of logs by hand and yes, I'll cede that that might be one reason to only bother with the important bits.
I know I'm not the only one who checks help files, sheets, +finger, etc. while RPing. All stuff you can't shove to a spawn and auto-filter out of logs. It makes editing a hot mess.
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@Auspice Or back when I played on MUDs... Editing out thousands of pages of combat spam because RP happened via remote while mindlessly grinding things.
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@Pandora said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
Nowadays, authors run the risk of getting 'cancelled' for writing anything too far beyond cute bunnies having birthday parties
I must be reading this wrong. Are you suggesting that cancel culture has made it so modern authors are afraid of writing anything 'too far beyond cute bunnies having birthday parties'?
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Shameful OCD confession. Note: I've gotten a lot better and don't do this any more, but OK, I used to be this kind of crazy.
So I used to log every scene I was in, not to share, but in order to monitor my writing skill over time.
I wouldn't just clean these logs up to make them pretty. I would go pose by pose and check what about my writing (and other people's) in this scene I liked, what I didn't, and why. I actually did learn a lot of very useful things doing this: I noticed that I had a bad habit of using underconfident language, especially in the form of adverbs; that I could never simply commit to my character smiling, it was always a slight or subtle smile. I overused words and phrases like "really", "practically", "seems" and "as if". This really hit home after reading the Bone Clocks, in which one of the characters, delivering a writing seminar in a very fourth-wall-breaking scene, gives some of the best and most useful writing advice that has stuck with me to this day, including ripping to shreds the overuse of the word "seems".
So then I would edit my logs, not just to tidy up typos or code spam etc., but also to improve my original poses until I was satisfied this was "good writing". Better flow, better sentence structure, kill all those double verbs. I am less comfortable admitting that I also did this to other people's poses, though I never actually showed them this; I just did it as an exercise in editing to teach myself how to perfect my own writing.
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One might argue that what you did was give yourself a master class in literary editing.
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@TheOnceler said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Pandora said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
Nowadays, authors run the risk of getting 'cancelled' for writing anything too far beyond cute bunnies having birthday parties
I must be reading this wrong. Are you suggesting that cancel culture has made it so modern authors are afraid of writing anything 'too far beyond cute bunnies having birthday parties'?
A variant of the term, cancel culture, describes a form of boycott in which someone (usually a celebrity) who has shared a questionable or unpopular opinion, or has had behavior in their past that is perceived to be either offensive or problematic called out on social media, is "canceled"
Have there been modern authors who have been boycotted by people for having different/unpopular opinions or having taken a different direction in content than some random "fans" (airquotes: faaaans) desired?
Yes.
That quote from Pandora's post seems to be "fair ball" in my book.
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@Ghost lol oh no kids these days don't write out their descs, they look at pictures! you and mercedes lackey can have fun yelling at clouds together and it will never change the march of progress, or the evolution of art and creation.
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@Kanye-Qwest said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Ghost lol oh no kids these days don't write out their descs, they look at pictures! you and mercedes lackey can have fun yelling at clouds together and it will never change the march of progress, or the evolution of art and creation.
lol oh no someone had a difference of opinion and the only way of responding to it is by acting as if they're john lithgow from footloose all angry and ornery because them darn kids be dancin.
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@Ghost well if the shoe fits your loose foot you better start jiving
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@Ghost said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
A variant of the term, cancel culture, describes a form of boycott in which someone (usually a celebrity) who has shared a questionable or unpopular opinion, or has had behavior in their past that is perceived to be either offensive or problematic called out on social media, is "canceled"
Have there been modern authors who have been boycotted by people for having different/unpopular opinions or having taken a different direction in content than some random "fans" (airquotes: faaaans) desired?
Yeah. That's not really what she said? But also, you're deffo right. It's so sad the way that people protesting her shitty opinions has made it so JK Rowling is unable to sell any books.
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@Kanye-Qwest said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Ghost well if the shoe fits your loose foot you better start jiving
curse you for foiling mercedes and myself's plan to single handedly hold back the tide of creative evolution using msb as ground zero for our john lithgow based plan of oppressive anti-creativity secularism
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@TheOnceler said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Ghost said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
A variant of the term, cancel culture, describes a form of boycott in which someone (usually a celebrity) who has shared a questionable or unpopular opinion, or has had behavior in their past that is perceived to be either offensive or problematic called out on social media, is "canceled"
Have there been modern authors who have been boycotted by people for having different/unpopular opinions or having taken a different direction in content than some random "fans" (airquotes: faaaans) desired?
Yeah. That's not really what she said? But also, you're deffo right. It's so sad the way that people protesting her shitty opinions has made it so JK Rowling is unable to sell any books.
The quote said that cancel culture had made modern authors afraid to write content that wasn't cute, fuzzy bunnies. That's how I read it.
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@mietze said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Kestrel people do not always take rosters because they are "unsure and uncommitted", sometimes it is an avenue to take a PC that is known to be thematic and appropriate to the setting or even needed/wanted skillset. It allows you to avoid irritating people on a channel asking what's wanted or making a PC to try and fill other people's wants and then dropping/never finishing them because interest is lost or the oc creator gets pissed because someone else makes a similar concept and they are not uniquely desired anymore. Or cluttering up a who/character list with a shitload of many PCs that realistically you know will not be played after about a month and the newness wears off.
Not that it can't happen with rosters too, but unsureness and noncommittal is a player thing that many people who turn up their nose at pre-gen pcs often have in spades as well.
For reals. I've played Rosters and my own creations, both, and my sureness and commitment had little to do with either.
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@Ghost said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
...cancel culture had made modern authors afraid to write content that wasn't cute, fuzzy bunnies.
Challenge accepted.
No, really. It's just a pity that the publishing houses don't feel the same way because believe me, at least here in Denmark, they worry about it. The big industry publishers play it ridiculously safe, to the point where some of them will only publish translations of guaranteed success English language bestsellers.
Not that I'm going to let that stop me from writing what I want, though.
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@Ghost said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
The quote said that cancel culture had made modern authors afraid to write content that wasn't cute, fuzzy bunnies. That's how I read it.
Okay. That isn't what you said then.
But, I mean, if that is what she meant, then, jeez, I'm sorry to hear you guys haven't read a book since you were nine.
Maybe saying goodnight to the moon wasn't gritty enough for you and maybe when the sun has set not long ago and everybody goes below to take a bath in one big tub you're disappointed that there's not more grim blood splatter, but you will be glad to know that they've actually published a book or two since then that do have some stuff beyond cute bunnies having birthday parties.
I mean, as much as I think the Sanderson quote above is pretty dumb, he's right there indicating that at the very least he (though his quote does indicate that he believes it applies to other authors) writes more than bunnies and birthday parties. Like, it's the point of the quote?
If you'd like a list of some of the books released since Sophie the Giraffe made a car go beep beep and a train go chugga chugga I bet there are some people who'd be happy to suggest one or two.
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@TheOnceler Correct. I havent read a book since I was nine. Let's keep it constructive; this isnt the Hog pit.