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  • Admin

    I liked the trailer for Lucifer.

    I don't know if Neil Gaiman is actually involved in any capacity but that'd be nice, too.



  • @Arkandel
    It's going to have Mazikeen, which is all I needed to hear. >_>

    Honestly when my wife told me about this a while back my initial response was "Hahaha what the fuck? That sounds dumb.", but after thinking about it, Lucifer running off to LA and deciding to spend some time working with the cops doesn't really strike me as any more or less weird than the other stuff he just up and decided to do in the comics.


  • Reader

    Have you seen the trailers for Minority Report (Fox) and The Frankenstein Code (Fox), @Arkandel? It's almost like Fox is once again greenlighting things we're going to love and then yank out from under us when we're ripe for the trolling.

    ES


  • Pitcrew

    Is it bad that I watched the trailer and my first thought was "Didn't @HelloRaptor play this as a character somewhere?"

    hides over here


  • Pitcrew

    Lucifer is being licensed from DC/Vertigo, but Gaiman's involvement ends there. I think it's supposed to be more based on the later Mike Carey comic rather than the stuff Lucifer did in Sandman.


  • Coder



  • Lucifer plays the piano and becomes a detective in Los Angeles. Along the way he meets ladies and makes them cream their pants.

    Jerry Bruckheimer, stop using Mad Libs at pitch meetings.



  • What? No, this sounds perfect. I think I did play that character somewhere/anywhere/everywhere.


  • Pitcrew

    @HelloRaptor So if it's good enough for you... ;)



  • @Glitch
    Huh.

    Both of those look pretty good. Could be good. Hopefully Fox doesn't screw them over. Of course, they kept Gotham going, and it had wobbly episodes, so...


  • Politics

    @Bobotron said:

    Huh.

    Both of those look pretty good. Could be good. Hopefully Fox doesn't screw them over. Of course, they kept Gotham going, and it had wobbly episodes, so...

    Yeah. But they skewered Firefly and Dollhouse, among a bunch of others (I can only remember the Whedon ones... damn Whedon).



  • @Coin
    Mostly because Fox carries ratings internally in a different manner than other networks, IIRC. There are particular target demographics and particular ratings that Fox looks at for specific nights, and neither of those shows met those needs.

    With the glut of other sci-fi shows on broadcast TV, these have a much better chance of working out in the long run.


  • Coder

    I heard from a guy who knew a guy that they canned Firefly because someone wanted to have John Doe. It requires some manual dexterity with Occams Razer, but I can believe this a bit more than it failed internal metrics. Did you SEE John Doe?



  • @Coin said:

    Yeah. But they skewered Firefly and Dollhouse, among a bunch of others (I can only remember the Whedon ones... damn Whedon).

    "Dollhouse" got a second season. It got a second season largely because "Firefly" had been so mistreated by the network and some people there who had relationships with Joss Whedon either felt bad or did not want to get more shit for essentially repeating that. It was promoted decently and while I'm not sure whether or not the episodes were aired in order (FOX is bad about that even with shows they're high on), I've rewatched the first season and the problems with getting people in on it were not FOX's fault. It got better, but that cancellation of that one isn't something I blame the network for. The ratings are here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dollhouse_episodes and even in today's decimated TV numbers landscape, this wouldn't have been sustainable.


  • Admin

    The hell is John Doe?

    But I wouldn't be surprised to find out Whedon is difficult to deal with if you're a producer or some such (as opposed to being an actor working with him, for example). The guy is brilliant, and aside from his movies and TV shows he wrote the definitive X-Men comic-book run as far as I'm concerned, but there's a non-zero chance managerial staff might find it hard to communicate with him properly.

    On the other hand he's a huge name now, and has made metric tons of money, so he can shoot whatever films he likes for the foreseeable future.


  • Pitcrew

    Last night's The Flash ended with, as the Narrator of Townsville would put it, "A good old-fashioned super hero super villain super fight." Firestorm, the Flash and Green Arrow vs. Reverse Flash.

    DC's really turning the dial on its TV stuff up to 11.



  • I think its nothing short of a stroke of genius to have DC 'overtaking' tv while Marvel is dominating at the theater. DC's comics are better set to a tv show, anyhow. There's more character development, interactions, schemings, etc. that go in the DC Universe with a yearly (season) Big Badass Fight ending things for that round. Whereas Marvel definitely has more the feel of some great big thing that happens every so often (2-3 times a year), with allusions to things that have occurred offscreen in the interim. DC made the right choice in their medium.


  • Politics

    @Miss-Demeanor said:

    DC made the right choice in their medium.

    Well, anything is better than letting Zack Snyder direct another movie.


  • Admin

    @Miss-Demeanor said:

    I think its nothing short of a stroke of genius to have DC 'overtaking' tv while Marvel is dominating at the theater. DC's comics are better set to a tv show, anyhow.

    Not if you count Daredevil in the mix. IMHO it stands head and shoulders over any other comic-book based TV series - and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. at its peak is better than either Flash or Arrow (although Flash is probably better in terms of consistency).


  • Pitcrew

    I'm way more fond of Daredevil & Agent Carter than Flash and Arrow. Though I've heard good things about Gotham, I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it yet.



  • I like Daredevil and Agent Carter well enough, and Flash and Arrow. I think what these shows have in common is that the parent company doesn't meddle with them very much, so they can just kind of be TV shows. Whereas Marvel clearly micro-manages everything on SHIELD.

    Ugh, Gotham.


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