Any Sonic games in development?
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I don't suppose anyone's working on a Sonic The Hedgehog mush? At this point I'd basically sell my soul for a good Sonic MU to appear, with non-evil staff. I've had ideas for it forever, but I can't really make a game, and don't quite think I have the moxy to run one by myself.
Dibs on playing Sally, if there is. @__@
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I don't know if one is in development or not, but now I'm suddenly curious. Would this be based on the cartoons, or the in-game lore?
I'm not sure how one based on just the gameplay would work, though I admit to being terribly curious now.
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@derp my guess would be based on the cartoons or comics
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My guess/hope is that it'd be based on the comics, which had several insanely complex and dramatic story arcs. (And when I say insane, I mean the batshit variety -- "Sonic literally becoming a king but then deleting his own children from history through time travel shenanigans" batshit insane.)
But a Sonic game of any variety is so niche that I sincerely doubt one is already in the works, just sayin'.
ETA: jinx, lel.
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@derp Mostly the SATAM cartoon and Archie comics based on it, but I'm a proponent of taking the good/useful stuff from any given adaption and trying to make a slightly more cohesive and detailed world.for high stakes shenanigans and adventures to happen. Places from the games, possibly altered to make more sense (Unleashed's countries, whatever the hell Chemical Plant Zone was supposed to be, etc)
That and tweaks like, maybe Sonic being a world-traveling adventurer who gets wrapped up in things - like in the games - rather than him being one of the outcasts from when the local kingdom got taken over by a lunatic who converts flesh and blood animal people into metal-and-wiring slaves, as in the show/comic.
Sonic's exact starting point may seem like kind of a pointless switch - and there's a good chance I'd leave it to the player, anyway - but I figure him starting as an outsider creates some potential for some arcs. 1: Nobody in Knothole's totally sure what to make of him at first; 2. There's probably some anxiety that he could just pick up and leave on a whim the same way he arrived, leaving them without a secret weapon; and 3. Sonic, who's used to going where the wind takes him, and never staying anywhere long, dealing with his nature telling him to go run free, versus the fact that he's started to actually know, and care about, and bond with people, possibly for the first time in any meaningful way.
So. Y'know. I've thought about Sonic a lot.
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@squirreltalk I dunno, I just think the setting on its own has massive potential for fun. I mean, three foot tall animal people who randomly have super-abilities in a massive fantasy world with varied environements, ancient civilizations, high magic and sci fi technology, fighting mad science and possibly the conflicting interests of other countries watching this happen and interfering? Just seems pretty strong. The Archie comic eventually got to Avatar: The Last Airbender levels of super good all-ages stories around the time Ian Flynn took over, and the fantasy is to basically keep that up on a game.
That's the dream. @__@
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You have the issue of the Sonic IP being slightly radioactive. The Sonic fandom is known for it's...interesting membership.
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@ominous said in Any Sonic games in development?:
You have the issue of the Sonic IP being slightly radioactive. The Sonic fandom is known for its...interesting membership.
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@greenflashlight said in Any Sonic games in development?:
@ominous said in Any Sonic games in development?:
You have the issue of the Sonic IP being slightly radioactive. The Sonic fandom is known for its...interesting membership.
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@arkandel said in Any Sonic games in development?:
What the what?
It's from a story I didn't create but that I'd rather not give traffic to, that encapsulates my experience with online Sonic fan communities. It was my effort to clarify what I believed Ominous was implying.
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@greenflashlight I don't see that as unique to the Sonic fandom. You can find some pretty awful shit in the superhero fandoms, and there's still quite a few of those games.
Hell, honestly? That clip is kinda timid. Quaint, even. It just kinda makes me feel embarrassed for some really horny kid out there.
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@squirreltalk said in Any Sonic games in development?:
Hell, honestly? That clip is kinda timid. Quaint, even.
...I mean, that's...all that was, a relatively SFW clip. The entire 360 chapter monstrosity is not hard to find and is pretty graphic. (If, y'know, grammatically horrendous and from what I bothered to read, kinda vanilla considering its protagonist is an anthropomorphic hedgehog fucking his way through a roster of video game characters).
The larger point I think @GreenFlashlight and @Ominous were trying to make though is that the Sonic fandom specifically is pretty legitimately weird, and the people who enjoy the original material entirely without irony or kink in 2021 are in the minority and most of them are also pretty young, whereas I feel pretty comfortable predicting a lot of the people who are both into MU*ing and Sonic are very likely going to be...yeah, interesting is a good choice.
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@wizz Again, that's not unique to Sonic. Sonic just somehow got more famous for it. Noisy maladjusted horny manchildren are a pandemic at large. There's plenty of people who are functioning humans who like this stuff.
I'll grant that the Freedom Fighters specifically are better known to an older audience, but they're not the point. The point is the setting and the adventures. Anyone that newer/less informed players don't recognize are just new characters as far as they're concerned.
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@squirreltalk said in Any Sonic games in development?:
Again, that's not unique to Sonic. Sonic just somehow got more famous for it.
Because what we're saying is that what's unique isn't that there's a segment of the fandom that consists of "horny man children," it's that they make up a significantly larger percentage of the online presence than they do in other fandoms. That's just the way it's gone down, for whatever reason.
I don't think anybody is saying this to discourage you from pursuing making this game if you really want to (it does sound fun!), we're just saying, be aware there's probably going to be a lot of overlap from that particular corner of the internet and you will need to be very clear on your theme and the standards of behavior you expect from your community.
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This encapsulates it well. The Sonic fandom is basically a slow-burn of the brony thing that burned fast and hot.
I loved MLP before the fanbase turned me off of it, and I loved Sonic AM, but the fandoms for both are rather inarguably a cut above the standard when it comes to the fervor of their fanbases, both for good and for ill. Both attract lots of creators, and both attract lots of ... creators. A lot of parallels, either way.
SonicAM has a pretty fun concept for a game, but the fandom it would attract would be tricky to manage properly.
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Nono, I understand what you're saying, man. I just insist that Sonic's fandom's reputation is overblown.
It only stands out because it high profile, it's a production for younger people, and it's furry, which always gets called out through a loudspeaker whenever anyone does anything perverted, among other things. It's a melting pot of things that draw attention and derision whenever a fan does something weird, and it gets shared around a lot more than the piles of fucked up stuff surrounding Star Wars and World of Warcraft.
My Little Pony went through the same thing. I didn't even ever watch that show because I didn't want to be associated with its fandom. In retrospect, that's not fair. People were trying to enjoy that stuff, while weirdos and perverts went around embarrassing them.
Granted, Sonic's weakness, in my mind, is that the core games never really told a consistent story or gave a consistent setting to latch onto with the possible shaky exception of Shadow's arc. That's where the cartoons and comics can fill in a lot of blanks, and build a fuller setting, I think.
Again, I get what you mean, but I just can't shake off the feeling of potential. I get that with a FEW settings I'd like there to be games for, but Sonic stands out to me the most.
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All that said, I doubt my ability to build or run a game alone. It's just a nice dream.
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@squirreltalk said in Any Sonic games in development?:
Nono, I understand what you're saying, man. I just insist that Sonic's fandom's reputation is overblown.
I don't doubt that. I also don't mean to imply that the Sonic fandom is somehow uniquely cringey, or that knowing in advance some people will be weird is a good reason not to try (if we did that, nothing would ever get done). The PR is just an angle a game would have to figure out how to manage.
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Well, I can only attest to my own absolute dedication to dealing with creeps, predators, and manipulators severely. I'm hard pressed to imagine a scenario where my zero-tolerence mindset for that stuff would let me overlook it. If a game can't survive without those people, it doesn't really have any business surviving, y'know?
Obviously that's just me saying that, though.
