Belatedly, for music... you might want to look at Stompin' Tom Connors for the Anglo-Canadian side of things (though it might be out of time period, started making music in the 60s) or Paul Anka. For the Francos... well, there's a million different small folk music artists in French Canadian culture. I'm not an expert on it at all, particularly in that time period, but for a "name soup" check out https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/pop-music-in-quebec-and-french-canada-emc/

The cool thing about Montreal is that prior to the separatist thing in the 70s and 80s, the city was very heavily loyalist Anglophone and made an interesting mix of people. Many Anglos (regardless of actual ethnic origin) were very British-Canadian in orientation, (I remember my grandmother using all manner of British terms in her day to day conversation, loyalty to the Queen and Commonwealth etc...). Quebec's population in the 50s was 15% Anglophone, but it was much higher in Montreal itself, and Anglos controlled a lot of the business and politics of the city. Given the divergence in timeline between real life and Fallout, you guys might want to stick with it, go with what happened historically or diverge into a what if.

I might poke my head in here, being a native Montrealer and a big Fallout fan. This looks super interesting!

@selu Nice try.

@rizbunz Hard for me to answer, to be honest, given that I grew up there in the 90s and I'm an Anglophone. Things Franco culture like old school music are a bit outside my realm.

Perhaps, like I said, you can have tensions between the minority of Anglophone and the majority of Francophones as an example. Divided loyalties, maybe - those who wanted to keep Canada independent (as part of the Commonwealth, or whatever followed it in game chronology), those who were pro-American and threw their lots in with the occupiers, and those who were isolationalist. The French would probably fall into the latter camp often, but that might be another division.

Of course, this is long ago now. Groups remain the same. You can also have the Church, which was monolithic and very important in French society until the 60s, be a big player in this world, perhaps. There's also a sizeable Mohawk reserve south of the city (Kahnawake) that could EASILY make a comeback as a potent force, and would actually be very cool to see in this.

@rizbunz Hard for me to answer, to be honest, given that I grew up there in the 90s and I'm an Anglophone. Things Franco culture like old school music are a bit outside my realm.

Perhaps, like I said, you can have tensions between the minority of Anglophone and the majority of Francophones as an example. Divided loyalties, maybe - those who wanted to keep Canada independent (as part of the Commonwealth, or whatever followed it in game chronology), those who were pro-American and threw their lots in with the occupiers, and those who were isolationalist. The French would probably fall into the latter camp often, but that might be another division.

Of course, this is long ago now. Groups remain the same. You can also have the Church, which was monolithic and very important in French society until the 60s, be a big player in this world, perhaps. There's also a sizeable Mohawk reserve south of the city (Kahnawake) that could EASILY make a comeback as a potent force, and would actually be very cool to see in this.

Belatedly, for music... you might want to look at Stompin' Tom Connors for the Anglo-Canadian side of things (though it might be out of time period, started making music in the 60s) or Paul Anka. For the Francos... well, there's a million different small folk music artists in French Canadian culture. I'm not an expert on it at all, particularly in that time period, but for a "name soup" check out https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/pop-music-in-quebec-and-french-canada-emc/

The cool thing about Montreal is that prior to the separatist thing in the 70s and 80s, the city was very heavily loyalist Anglophone and made an interesting mix of people. Many Anglos (regardless of actual ethnic origin) were very British-Canadian in orientation, (I remember my grandmother using all manner of British terms in her day to day conversation, loyalty to the Queen and Commonwealth etc...). Quebec's population in the 50s was 15% Anglophone, but it was much higher in Montreal itself, and Anglos controlled a lot of the business and politics of the city. Given the divergence in timeline between real life and Fallout, you guys might want to stick with it, go with what happened historically or diverge into a what if.

I might poke my head in here, being a native Montrealer and a big Fallout fan. This looks super interesting!

@selu Nice try.

@packrat That's absolutely phenomenal. I was wondering if I could take this chart and use it as a basis for a similar thing on the game I staff on?

@packrat I'm very sorry for your loss. I've lost a few loved ones over the last year, and it's never an easy time. MUSHing should play second or third fiddle, in that case.

Any updates on this?

One of my favourite book series ever. If I have time, I'd be interested should anyone do this.

If I had more time, I would one hundred percent be on this. As it is, I barely have time for any of my hobbies, and Eternal Crusade has sucked up my time. I will be watching though.

As a side note, I played Decumius on DBTS and FS MUSH, and Edward on Star Crusade.

The Eternal Crusade is a low fantasy roleplaying world, whose focus is political intrigue and late medieval era warfare. The Civilised West, which is how the game world is known, is bordered by the Ergonian mountain range in the east, the ocean in the west, the Great Salt River to the south and the tribal lands of the north.

Contained within the area are two kingdoms - Aequor in the north, inspired mostly by France and Italy and Galenthia in the south, a mix of medieval England, Scotland, Germany and Spain in the coastal areas. The city state of Four Corners, a vast, merchant controlled polity on the ocean's coast dominates trade and swears allegiance only to coin, while the Church controlled State of Rikton concerns itself with the spiritual welfare of the West. Meanwhile, the mysterious Principality of Kentaire keeps a tight reign on all entry and exit but does a brisk trade in a new technology - firearms. On the peripheries we've got Viking inspired raiders on the island of White Hall, a Persian state across the Great Salt River, the Partharian Empire and the remnants of a once great, all dominating Vir Sidus Empire on the other side of the eastern mountains, inspired by an alternative, reformed Roman rump state.

The game itself offers a variety of roles to play. From the combat orientated knight who rides out to fight for their liege lord, kingdom, or the Church of the One Faith to the noble trying to rise the political ladder through intrigue, backstabbing or guile. From the shadows, the everpresent Syndicate controls the Civilised West's black market and less savoury elements, exerting a wide reach over many. More or less anything you can think of is possible to play, with the focus generally being on the affairs of Galenthia, Aequor and Four Corners.

Check out our Wiki if you're interested: http://eternalcrusade.wikidot.com/
Or log on in at: tacitus.genesismuds.com Port: 1220

Hope to see you there!

@Ide said:

So I hear FS, Dark Sun...let me add Thieves World and Black Company. Though I'm getting far afield of high fantasy.

Gritty fantasy is like a black hole

The Black Company books remain some of my favourite. I often wondered (and actually remember posting on WORA requesting) what a MUSH where the PCs are members of a similar company trapesing around the world on contracts would look like. You have your stable PCs, and your GMs handle the rest.