Historical MUSHes
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Another factor to consider is, as a whole, MUSH-dom doesn't do subtlety very well. When it's there to be found in RP it isn't usually so much an undertone of racism or discrimination as much as a consistent stream of wide-eyed ranting and gleeful mustache-twirling delivering monologue after monologue about whatever the character is about.
Movies and books can actually portray this kind of villainy to add some depth and set a tone without making these aspects the every scene's sole focus. PCs often don't. Far more so when their players are disingenuous about their characters' purpose in the game.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@Arkandel said in Historical MUSHes:
Another factor to consider is, as a whole, MUSH-dom doesn't do subtlety very well.
This hasn't been my experience at all. Sure, some people fuck it up as you describe, but they're not what I'd consider typical of the hobby. They stand out more because crappy experiences always do.
Movies and books can actually portray this kind of villainy to add some depth and set a tone without making these aspects the every scene's sole focus.
So can players on a MU.
PCs often don't.
Sure they do. What both goldfish and I recounted is not the behavior you describe at all. We did not stop existing from one page to the next.
Far more so when their players are disingenuous about their characters' purpose in the game.
Not sure what you're getting at here, unless it's going back to the 'all people OK with these themes existing just want to get their *ism on' principle, which is nonsense, with a 'they're just in denial about it' insult cherry on top. Hoping that's not what's intended so it would help to clarify this.
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I find it far more common that people want to be offended, usually on behalf of others, to show that they're "not like that." Even in instances where the racism doesn't come from any RL prejudice.
I was on a D&D-inspired game a long time ago. Thematically, the denizens of whatever city we were in treated goblins poorly. Goblin walks into bar, my PC reacts poorly. Then all the other players start race-splaining to me. Goblin player was cool with it.
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@Tinuviel said in Historical MUSHes:
I find it far more common that people want to be offended, usually on behalf of others, to show that they're "not like that." Even in instances where the racism doesn't come from any RL prejudice.
I was on a D&D-inspired game a long time ago. Thematically, the denizens of whatever city we were in treated goblins poorly. Goblin walks into bar, my PC reacts poorly. Then all the other players start race-splaining to me. Goblin player was cool with it.
I've seen scenarios like this one play out a dozen times and I have to say I always find it kind of offensive when people compare prejudice against actual non-human species who per lore have literally different intellectual capabilities and temperaments, to real-life discrimination between humans whose sole difference is the melanin in their skin.
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I have been lucky enough to enjoy a lot of very deeply satisfying and vibrant historical setting RP (including a lot of the not so nice aspects and tensions). But I will be honest. Whether that was in flashbacks OR in a historical themed mush, it's always been with a smaller playgroup or even one other person who enjoyed engaging on that level and had a similar desire for the level of "accuracy" or research or whatnot. I have NEVER found that "in general" on a historical place. I think that is okay, and if you want to play on a historical place like it or not you are going to have to be able to tolerate some deviation from your desired levels of things. Just like if you want to be super involved in a sphere or faction PROBABLY (not always) you're going to have to engage in specialized BaRP that may be amazing some of the time, fun hopefully a majority of the time, and downright painful much of the time as you rub elbows with people you don't know/aren't your preferred type. But if you are able to be tolerant during the BaRP esp. if you are new and without contacts, eventually you'll find hopefully 1 or 2 people that you can engage more fully with.
