Apr 15, 2019, 10:49 PM
@Thenomain The Parisian prosecutors seem to share your view. We'll have to wait and see what the investigation turns up. Once the fire is out, of course.
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@Thenomain said in RL Anger:
But it will burn it down almost completely at this point.
Yup. Turns out I overestimated things.
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@Thenomain I have to wonder if they won't end up turning it into a museum with modern structures taking over where the remaining framework that can be safely restored leaves off, rather than a full restoration.
There's a cathedral that was destroyed in the Blitz that was restored in this way, and while it may not be compelling for the same reasons the original was, it became just as powerful (and quite humbling) for a variety of reasons after.
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Reuters news agency is quoting an official with the French firefighting team as saying: "We can now say that the structure of Notre-Dame has been saved from total destruction".
AFP is also reporting that the main structure has been "saved and preserved", citing an official.
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oh god I hope so
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@Cupcake Perhaps they heard with a lisp and mistook the tr for a...
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The spire was lost, along with 800 year old stained glass windows, but apparently the main structure was saved.
Which... Is better than it could have been? Though still awful, whilst there might be a multitude of millennia old cathedrals in Europe so few of them still have original windows and glass work let alone those as iconic as Notre Dame.
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The spire was lost
Thankfully the statues around the spire were already removed, as the spire was under restoration. So they're fine.
He/Him
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the spire was under restoration.
This is the main hope that I have that this was an accident. I hope that restoration company has good insurance.
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@Thenomain The Parisian prosecutors seem to share your view. We'll have to wait and see what the investigation turns up. Once the fire is out, of course.
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@Thenomain said in RL Anger:
the spire was under restoration.
This is the main hope that I have that this was an accident. I hope that restoration company has good insurance.
I don't know how you'd even begin to do a cost assessment for "accidentally burned down Notre Dame du Paris."
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@insomniac7809 Change nature of business to demolitions. Use quote to advertise!
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@insomniac7809 said in RL Anger:
@Thenomain said in RL Anger:
the spire was under restoration.
This is the main hope that I have that this was an accident. I hope that restoration company has good insurance.
I don't know how you'd even begin to do a cost assessment for "accidentally burned down Notre Dame du Paris."
"We propose this sum of money as an apology and bribe to the Human Race."
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Pet peeve: Being short enough to hit my head on cupboard doors people leave open. I was looking out our kitchen window to see if the trash was brought to the curb and clipped myself good, just above my right temple. Didn't bruise, but I got a slight swelling that hurts still. At least my hair covers it.
Bonus related peeve: having a knot on my head where I lay my head on my pillow. FFS!
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It's been years since I spoke French, but I was following Le Monde obsessively today as it was updating faster than most of the English language news sites today. Provided I've been translating correctly, what we know so far is:
- Two thirds of the roof, including the spire, have been completely lost
- As the spire was directly above the altar, this was likely destroyed
- With the interior of the building being mostly wood construction, it's unlikely that anything in the interior of the main section survived
- All of the rose windows are gone; I've not yet seen anything on the remainder of the windows
- The primary stone structure (known as the vault) was saved by the firefighters
- Although the North Tower caught, the belfry is intact
- The bells in both towers appear to still be in place, but it's unknown if their support structure -- also wood -- is stable
- A number of pieces of art were saved, though I've not seen mention of which
- The statues that were saved were the copper ones installed in 1860; they'd been removed on Thursday as part of the renovations and are NOT the exterior ones you're likely thinking of
- The tunic of St. Louis and the crown of thorns, asserted to be THE crown of thorns from the crucifixion but likely dating to the 4th century, were saved according to the cathedral's rector
The Parisian prosecutor's office is currently running an investigation into what translates roughly into English as "unintentional burning of a building" and isn't considering arson at the moment.
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It's been years since I spoke French, but I was following Le Monde obsessively today as it was updating faster than most of the English language news sites today. Provided I've been translating correctly, what we know so far is:
- Two thirds of the roof, including the spire, have been completely lost
> - As the spire was directly above the altar, this was likely destroyed
Somehow, somehow, the altar survived the spire's collapse.
https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
There were never any good old days. They are today. They are tomorrow. It's a stupid thing we say, cursing tomorrow with sorrow. -- Gogol Bordello - Two thirds of the roof, including the spire, have been completely lost
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I just heard that all of the artifacts and individual pieces of art were also saved/survived (not the windows), too. And that only one person was hurt, a firefighter, and while he was seriously injured, is expected to recover. I'm hoping that this is true.
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I just heard that all of the artifacts and individual pieces of art were also saved/survived (not the windows), too. And that only one person was hurt, a firefighter, and while he was seriously injured, is expected to recover. I'm hoping that this is true.
Like @insomniac7809, I also saw a Twitter thread about the northern rose window having survived and while I understood most of it, I've not yet seen any photos yet. I'm hoping that by morning my time, there will be well-lit images so we can see or not see. The altar, the bells, and the window were what I was most hoping would survive.
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I have to make my 10-11 year olds sit through 2 tests tomorrow. 1 65 minutes long, and the other 85 minutes long.
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I'm just so angry at my body.