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    Diversity Representation in MU*ing

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    • Tinuviel
      Tinuviel @SparklesTheClown last edited by

      @HelloProject said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

      I don't get why you would dig into being defensive about it instead of trying to get an understanding of why people are saying what they are.

      This is the internet.

      He/Him

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      • Pandora
        Pandora last edited by

        Sans bells or whistles:

        Lesbians have a diversity representation problem in mu-ing; in no game of note does the lesbian community ever seem to resemble a diverse, healthy lesbian community.

        @GreenFlashlight Butches are very much still a thing, I'm part of a few different butch/stud fashion/relationships groups.

        Tinuviel about 9 hours ago
        I hate you with the power of a thousand Pandoras.

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        • Roz
          Roz Banned @Pandora last edited by

          @Pandora Just to clarify, do you think that trans lesbians playing lesbian PCs is contributing to bad representation of lesbians on MU*s?

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          • L. B. Heuschkel
            L. B. Heuschkel @SparklesTheClown last edited by

            @HelloProject said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

            There are very few truly racially homogeneous places on Earth, and this isn't like some modern thing. People really have this fascination with medieval Europe being 100% white and anything to the contrary is SJW propaganda. Fuck actual history and art I guess lmao.

            Amen, amen, and amen again, said the historian. POCs were definitely a thing in medieval Europe, and the only people claiming otherwise are white supremacists pushing an ideal all-white European age of glory that never existed.

            http://keys.aresmush.com -- Come to Chincoteague, we have ponies.

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            • peasoupling
              peasoupling @SparklesTheClown last edited by peasoupling

              @HelloProject said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

              (I've literally never seen someone play a butch lesbian in MUSHing in my entire life, which is a perfectly valid concern)

              I mean, I only have so much free time on my hands, and PBs are a headache, but I think I'd need both hands to count them on my fingers.

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              • Tinuviel
                Tinuviel @L. B. Heuschkel last edited by

                @L-B-Heuschkel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

                POCs were definitely a thing in medieval Europe, and the only people claiming otherwise are white supremacists pushing an ideal all-white European age of glory that never existed.

                In general, absolutely. In specific... it's sometimes spotty. But if you specifically set your game in a place and/or time that doesn't have POCs... then you've got to be exceptionally careful, and damn sure you can't tell your story elsewhere/elsewhen.

                He/Him

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                  Caractus Banned @Tinuviel last edited by

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                    Caractus Banned last edited by Caractus

                    Anyway.

                    Arx is supposedly nice but I soured on being enthusiastic after the staff sent my black charbit back to chargen 3 times and then just banned me without further ceremony.

                    I just don't bother with new games. The sex mu*s do just fine inasmuch as scratching the RP itch goes. Had characters on there for well on ten years, no fuss.

                    I'm sure there is something to be said about that.

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                    • Roz
                      Roz Banned @Caractus last edited by

                      @Caractus Yeah that -- sounds like there's probably more to the story.

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                        Caractus Banned @Roz last edited by

                        @Roz

                        I checked and apparently it was just racism.

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                        • Tinuviel
                          Tinuviel @Roz last edited by

                          @Roz Five posts, only in this thread? Wonder who it could be...

                          He/Him

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                            Caractus Banned @Tinuviel last edited by Caractus

                            @Tinuviel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

                            @Roz Five posts, only in this thread? Wonder who it could be...

                            This business of banning people from your games because you suspect it is someone else is very tiresome. Not all of us can be Ravaun at the same time.

                            Inevitably, you are incorrect. JinShei banned me from her game just as I was settling in and people hastened to link me to some sex pest person on a game I had never encountered, let alone played on, was terribly funny to observe, mostly because they seemed to think I was actually two people at once, or one person sock puppeting.

                            It's really none of my business, but you look silly when you compare someone who roleplays mostly white grungy biker chuds, and someone who plays elaborate simulacrums of egyptian noblemen, cross your eyes, and go "these are the same person".

                            Perhaps if you want to remove people without too much fuss you could do that, but that is hardly what I would call an ethical action on the behalf of the administration.

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                            • Meg
                              Meg last edited by

                              Arx doesn't just 'ban black characters'. There's plenty of black characters around on Arx. So unless you're willing to provide more to the story, what your concept was, etc, well then. I will take your whole thing with a grain of salt.

                              #FreeFarfalla

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                                Caractus Banned @Meg last edited by

                                @Meg said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

                                Arx doesn't just 'ban black characters'. There's plenty of black characters around on Arx. So unless you're willing to provide more to the story, what your concept was, etc, well then. I will take your whole thing with a grain of salt.

                                In the thread about the lack of diversity in these games you said this?

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                                • Roz
                                  Roz Banned @Caractus last edited by Roz

                                  @Caractus Hey so was this app who originally also included a description of genitals yours? Cause that's what I'm gonna assume right now.

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                                    Caractus Banned @Roz last edited by

                                    @Roz

                                    Yes, I offered to amend that. Funny story, really, I just copypasted that chap's desc from another game and failed to make it PG enough.

                                    However, I was then quietly sitebanned and just went back to Shang, again..

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                                    • L. B. Heuschkel
                                      L. B. Heuschkel last edited by L. B. Heuschkel

                                      See, as I recall being on the game that Jinshei banned a black character from, it's worth noticing that said black character was banned because it managed to hit every porn trope on the register. Every single one. Not one player was in any doubt that this was a character designed to rile people up and make them uncomfortable. Several players complained about it being horribly racist even before it got on grid (if it ever did).

                                      Now, it's entirely possible that this was another black character, and if that is the case, please ignore and move on. Nah, that's the one.

                                      But if it was -- and you genuinely sought to app a black character who would have embarrassed Pornhub's cuck porn section... Then yes, maybe the problem is not only with the games you app on.

                                      http://keys.aresmush.com -- Come to Chincoteague, we have ponies.

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                                      • Roz
                                        Roz Banned @Caractus last edited by

                                        @Caractus said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

                                        @Roz

                                        Yes, I offered to amend that. Funny story, really, I just copypasted that chap's desc from another game and failed to make it PG enough.

                                        However, I was then quietly sitebanned and just went back to Shang, again..

                                        Cool, thanks for the confirmation!

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                                          Caractus Banned @Roz last edited by

                                          @Roz

                                          No problem. I'm quite proud to have played a role in this earth shaking revelation.

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                                          • Roz
                                            Roz Banned @Caractus last edited by

                                            @Caractus I certainly think the app speaks for itself.

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