Sep 3, 2020, 12:57 PM

@TNP said in Web portals and scenes and grids oh my!:

With people logged on through the portal not showing on +where in scenes, you don't know who's in that scene. Maybe someone is there you're avoiding. Maybe +where shows 3 people but when you get there it's actually 7 because there's 4 portal people and it's too large a scene for you. This is one of the things I dislike about Ares.

That's a good point, and I can certainly look into that more.

The reason it works that way is because +where is traditionally designed to represent WHERE people are in the grid. The web people aren't really ON the grid.

So you can either:
a) Not show them in a room on +where (current implementation -- they show up at the bottom)
b) Potentially show them in MULTIPLE rooms on +where based on what scenes they're participating in. (ETA: which opens a can of worms because even people who ARE on the grid can also be in other scenes).

So in this example below:

  • Sara and Faraday show up with a location of "Web Portal" because they're web-only.
  • Sara and Ryan are participating in scene #3 too, but Sara is not actually in the room and Ryan is offline, so they're not listed.
  • There may be other active scenes that aren't listed.
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                                  Ares Demo                                   
-----[ Open Scenes ]------------------------------------------
#3    Sharkey's Bar                      Cate

-----[ Other ]-----------------------------------------------------
      Web Portal                         Faraday[Web], Sara[Web]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
        3 Online                    1 IC                    7 Record         
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In Ares, the scenes command generally gives you a better view of what scenes are going on. It shows you the scenes, status (private/public), who all is in them, whether they're online, when the last pose was, etc.

+==~~~~~====~~~~====~~~~====~~~~=====~~~~=====~~~~====~~~~====~~~~====~~~~~==+
Scenes
-----------------------------------------------------
#3 <Open*>                                 Organized By: Faraday     Social     3m
Sharkey's Bar (Temp Room)                  Players:  Faraday, Sara 
Hanging in the bar.  Come one come all.
Notes: Test
-------------------------------------------------------
Scene views: scenes/open, scenes/all, scenes/unshared.
+==~~~~~====~~~~====~~~~====~~~~=====~~~~=====~~~~====~~~~====

I think the scenes command is better for finding RP. Yes, it's different, but c'mon, it's one command: scenes versus where.

Also, players who like to grid-camp can still plant a flag in that list by opening a scene with a summary like the one above. "Hanging in the bar. Come one come all." Which I feel is better than just seeing somebody randomly on grid and not knowing their intentions.