Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff
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@carma said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
One time, after my character was severely injured and had already received treatment for the injury, I roleplayed my character recovering, doing things delicately, and generally acknowledging that the wound was slowing down my character.
There's this action movie I watched with my mom once. I couldn't for my life tell you which one it is or who's in it, but at some point early on the protagonist gets shot in the right arm, and in a later scene there's a bit where the character is exiting a car and closing the door behind him. The movie draws no attention to it, but he closes the door kind of awkwardly with his left arm because his right arm is still injured. Mom loved that, so I did too.
So that's why I love the scene you're talking about.
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Also laws. Laws just can't work the way they do in real life without messing up.
You die - but you become sentient undead. Do you legally lose all of your belongings? Do they go to your next or kin? What if you are resurrected, and back to the living, but your possessions have already been given away?
How do you even apply laws when there are spells, curses and magic that can make you do things against your will? How do you prove someone wasn't made to stab their friend in the back?
Some races live far longer than others. What is the age of consent!
Don't get me /started/ on the privacy issues mind-reading or scrying creates. How about prophecies? There are some real Minority Report-level headaches there.
Worried about gun ownership? How about your former adventurer neighbor who has a legendary artifact hanging on his wall as a souvenir from the good ol' days, and he's getting senile... so who knows what's gonna happen if he messes with it.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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As someone who religiously plays / played vampires, do you really want me to describe how you can quite easily set up legal vehicles in order to maintain a vampire lord's possessions over time without resorting to the use of Disciplines?
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@ganymede said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
As someone who religiously plays / played vampires, do you really want me to describe how you can quite easily set up legal vehicles in order to maintain a vampire lord's possessions over time without resorting to the use of Disciplines?
Yes.
The Center Cannot Hold.
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@ganymede said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
As someone who religiously plays / played vampires, do you really want me to describe how you can quite easily set up legal vehicles in order to maintain a vampire lord's possessions over time without resorting to the use of Disciplines?
Yeah but that's if they know about it - and in the World of Darkness where there are institutions about that sort of thing.
What about in D&D? You get bitten by the wrong thing, WHAM! You're now a creature of the night.
Oh, oh! A rich guy is drunk when he rides his fancy steed over a poor half-Elf and kills him. The authorities arrest him, but he uses his money and privilege to resurrect the guy if his family doesn't press charges. No justice or... was there even a crime if the victim is in full health after?
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@arkandel Yes crime! Resurrection causes a loss of 1 character level. To an NPC that's like going from a journeyman to an apprentice! That's their livelihood!
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@too-old-for-this said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
@arkandel Yes crime! Resurrection causes a loss of 1 character level. To an NPC that's like going from a journeyman to an apprentice! That's their livelihood!
As it turns down even in fantasy you need to choose between your health and your financial stability!
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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Now I am dying to see someone write a story around a high fantasy world's small claims court.
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@arkandel Well, the NPC in question isn't getting the choice. They were killed. The choice is being made for them without their input. Unless the noble is also paying for a cleric to Speak with Dead to determine if the NPC even wants to come back.
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@carma said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
The constant need to come up with IC reasons for the unexpected disappearance of characters, because their players stopped showing up. And reasons for why your character isn't checking up on that person.
Brigid: "I think that's everyone safe and accounted for. Thank heavens nobody was killed in that meteor storm."
Abelard: "I haven't seen your husband. Is he alright?"
Brigid: "Oh, I completely forgot about him. I'm sure he's fine."
"I reiterate no one died during the meteor swarm and we will not be discussing this further.
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It's called 'splash damage's for a reason, you ninnies. Go cry to the healer.
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@horrorhound said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
Yes.
Fine.
First, try to take it. Anyone stupid enough to do that will be met with violence. The justice system revolves around the idea of protecting property, not people. When the first few people show up dead, you’ve made your point.
Second, the power. You set it up. Put your peons who know better in the right places. Prop them up. Protect them and theirs. Then the system is yours.
Finally, banks and trusts. Trust funds can exist in perpetuity, even if title restrictions cannot. Set up a few trusts to do business one another, all to benefit a single actual beneficiary: your whim.
Not tough.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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Niiice. Short and sweet, I like it.
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@too-old-for-this said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
@arkandel Well, the NPC in question isn't getting the choice. They were killed. The choice is being made for them without their input. Unless the noble is also paying for a cleric to Speak with Dead to determine if the NPC even wants to come back.
Note: The spell simply fails if they do not want to come back. They do actually get a choice. At least in the 3.0-ish versions.
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
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@derp iirc that actually depends on the spell. And yes, the edition. Because I think Resurrection and Reincarnation are the only two 'come back from the dead' spells in 3.5 and earlier editions. But I know 5e has Revivify, but I don't think that one comes with a caveat of choice. Admittedly, I know next to nothing of 4e.
Edit Also, I can't think that a random NPC from a town is going to understand that if they choose to come back they are going to be 'set back' in the manner they would be. So it would be a choice borne of ignorance, uninformed. Which isn't really a choice, since you aren't going into it knowing the consequences.
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@too-old-for-this But the person themselves wouldn't be asked for legal purposes beforehand.
I was thinking more of cases such as "wealthy person demands that the victim's family don't press charges, else he won't bring their loved one back".
You can have your dad back... or justice for his death. Pick one.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@arkandel I get what you're saying, but in a world where coming back from death is a possibility, people would presumably understand that their loved one coming back would be dependent on the loved one wanting to return. So that threat holds little water given that offering to pay for resurrection will only matter if the dead person wants to come back and accept the limitations that would be levied on them for coming back.
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@pyrephox said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
@faraday said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
@pyrephox said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
@carma In Ares, I really wish there was more cultural acceptance of, "Joey filled in Susan on the events of <link to log>last night," instead of having to do direct dialogue.
The expectation of direct dialogue has been a thing since I started playing in the 1990s - it really has nothing to do with Ares.
That said - yeah, MU conversations are pretty absurd. That's partly why I can't do big scenes any more (even more than 3 people). Everyone is putting so much into their individual poses that by the time it comes round to me there are like 27 conversation threads to keep up with and my brain cries uncle.
No, I understand that. I'm not blaming Ares. I'm just saying that in an environment where most games have every meaningful scene logged and every log public, it should be more of a thing to just be able to condense a recap to a link to the relevant logs.
I tend to do that via mail on Ares, by making it an IC message sent, paper or phone or email. People seem to be cool with that as a recap rather than me having to spell it all out in poses.
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@greenflashlight said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
@arkandel said in Weird or unrealistic gaming... stuff:
No American born after 1990 is named Bianca.
