GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires)
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PLEASE NOTE THIS IS STILL A HUGE WORK IN PROGRESS! But could folks take a look at this page and list what questions they might have to be able to play an Angel in this setting?
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Spitballing:
So then what is a Guild Hunter, how does it relate to Angels?
Since angel births are rare, I take it there must be a national-global registry?
Does this mean trhat some level all angels are related?
Can an angel be born deformed (without wings?) what happens? Does their angel-ness show up somehow?Since Angels can become ArchAngels, do angels sometimes bump off rivals(before they too powerful?)
How do mortals handle all this?
Do Angels age at the same rate as a humans till a certain point? Or do they age faster or slower? Do htey live in communities seperate from angels and go to like some segreated schools?
Do angels mix with mortals, or do you know not see angels walking down the street, going grocery shoping, with Angel Mom and her single kid?
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@Songtress said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
Spitballing:
So then what is a Guild Hunter, how does it relate to Angels?
That'll be answered in the section on the guild.Since angel births are rare, I take it there must be a national-global registry?
There's like on every decade or century, I don't remember exactly. I think she may have put "century" but that birthrate is way, way too low for the number of angels that inhabit the world... That's only 21 angels born in the last 2000 years. She's usually very good at world building but that's way too low. I'm gonna say that there may be a single angel birth every decade. That's still only 202 new angels compared to the billions of humans.
Does this mean trhat some level all angels are related?
Eh. No. The books clearly describe who are related to each other and who are not. They don't seem to have a global family thing going on at all.
Can an angel be born deformed (without wings?) what happens? Does their angel-ness show up somehow?
Yes but it's very very rare. There is only one angel in the entire series who is mentioned as being deformed. She still has wings but one of them is twisted and she can't fly.
Since Angels can become ArchAngels, do angels sometimes bump off rivals(before they too powerful?)
Yes.
How do mortals handle all this?
Mortals don't really get much of a mention of how they relate to angel politics. I think mostly angels tend to try to ignore it.
Do Angels age at the same rate as a humans till a certain point? Or do they age faster or slower? Do htey live in communities seperate from angels and go to like some segreated schools?
Angels are either raised in the court of their Archangel or they are raised at the Refuge. Which is where almost all angels are taught by the same chick (the deformed woman), Jessamy who is the historian for Angelkind. (Which supports the only 202 new angels in the past 2000 years thing if one person can teach them all).
Do angels mix with mortals, or do you know not see angels walking down the street, going grocery shoping, with Angel Mom and her single kid?
No. Angels don't tend to go grocery shopping. If angels need groceries they have vampires or mortal servants to do that for them. However, after a certain point angels no longer need to eat. Or they only need to eat like once a month or once a year. They also don't need to sleep after a certain point.
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Wow that's so.. inhuman. I like it. So in your Guildhunter game ,can you play a young angel 'Say under 100?'.
Also 1 kid decade is still quite low, was there a reason for it?
Do Angel's like (elfquest elves) have like a switch that needs to be flipped before they can procreate or is it literally that female ovulation is just that 'rare'? ( How would they even know they were entering a fertile time to make sure that their 1 kid a decade is a thing?
(also could that be 2-5 kids across the world per decade then? -
I did read the first few books and I do not think it was a case of one angel birth a decade across the whole world. I mean angels are rare, but not impossibly so and at one point the main character encounters a sort of primary school class of angels which is fairly populated.
One angel birth a century for an actively trying couple certainly fits, but not for their entire society. If it was one birth a century worldwide or even one per decade then they would probably have died out a long long time ago through a combination of infighting and accidents. Adult angels are hard to kill outright but they are not all that difficult to cripple/incapacitate even through things like accidents or crashes in flight.
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@Songtress said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
Wow that's so.. inhuman. I like it. So in your Guildhunter game ,can you play a young angel 'Say under 100?'.
No, that'd be akin to playing a child.
Also 1 kid decade is still quite low, was there a reason for it?
It is extremely low. But that's even higher than the numbers she gave in one of the books.
Do Angel's like (elfquest elves) have like a switch that needs to be flipped before they can procreate or is it literally that female ovulation is just that 'rare'? ( How would they even know they were entering a fertile time to make sure that their 1 kid a decade is a thing?
No, they are just less fertile than humans because they live much longer.
(also could that be 2-5 kids across the world per decade then?
Yeah, as @Packrat said in reality it's probably more something like 1-birth per actively trying couple per 10 or 100 years or something. And then since it takes about 100-200 years for that child to mature most wouldn't be having another while their first kid is so young.
@Packrat said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
I did read the first few books and I do not think it was a case of one angel birth a decade across the whole world. I mean angels are rare, but not impossibly so and at one point the main character encounters a sort of primary school class of angels which is fairly populated.
I'm trying to find the exact quote but I remember reading it and being like: "That can't be right. Rare yeah, but not /that rare/."
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Page has been updated with a bunch of stuff. Can folks let me know if they have any other questions?
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@Cobaltasaurus
To avoid- stupid mary-sueism.: Perhaps no 'halfblood (angel-human) children. If anything perhaps make the child one or the other. more like mortal (as I doubt a human woman could carry an angel to term., or some kind of Gifted Human?Do angels only have a single power or do they get multiple smaller ones? (I know the wiki entry mentions angels have 'a supernatural ability', but its mentioned that they can have powers (plural).
(I am trying to nitpick so its really clear).
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I'm leaving it at there are no known angel/human children. i have a theory that the next book is going to address what happens when an angel and a human have a kid, but we'll have to wait until Archangel's Heart comes out. That being said, no player will be allowed to be an angel/human child. Isn't a matter of mary-sueism it's a matter of its not at all a model in the books.
And most angels will have one power that has multiple utilities. Stronger angels will have multiple powers. Jason can create black rain that hurts people, can blend into the shadows until he's basically invisible, and can hear information on the wind. On the other hand Mahiya can "see" through Jason's shadows (mostly but not always), and can create balls of light. And Andromeda seems to have no powers over her own, save an ability to go into a "battle trance". Aiodh also is not described as having powers. Where as Illium has the ability to make objects close to his body invisible.
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This might be a dumb question but.. can humans become Angels? There is show they can be vampires but no indication that they can be Angels.
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@icanbeyourmuse said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
This might be a dumb question but.. can humans become Angels? There is show they can be vampires but no indication that they can be Angels.
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I can't believe I forgot that on that page. Derp. There is only one human-to-angel in known history. Elena the main character of the books.
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@Cobaltasaurus said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
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Are you going to open it to be more or stick to just her?
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@icanbeyourmuse said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
@Cobaltasaurus said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
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Are you going to open it to be more or stick to just her?
Just her. Made Angels are only possible when an Archangel finds his true love/soulmate that happens to a human and then he (or she) produces ambrosia. The only other possibility in known history in canon was with Lijuan, and she killed that person rather than turn them into an angel and become more human. This special person also weakens the archangel (this person can wound the angel in such a manner that they don't get all their super powers etc).
Being an angel made might be shiny, but it's tied directly to Archangels so its a nope.
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Please let me know if you have any questions about vampires in this setting after reading this page:
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@Cobaltasaurus It seems pretty clear - although I might suggest adding a list of the "taken" variant powers/abilities/weirdnesses from the books, since you don't want overlap. For players who haven't read the books, or just might have forgotten one or two.
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@Pyrephox said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
@Cobaltasaurus It seems pretty clear - although I might suggest adding a list of the "taken" variant powers/abilities/weirdnesses from the books, since you don't want overlap. For players who haven't read the books, or just might have forgotten one or two.
That's a fantastic suggestion! I'll do that tomorrow, when I have a brain again.
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So does this mean when you run out of powers, that's it for creating Angels?
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Nah, just refer to the Nobilis RPG for more ideas.
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@Songtress said in GuildHunter game? (Angels, Vampires):
So does this mean when you run out of powers, that's it for creating Angels?
I don't follow?
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I need to write up a chargen guide for the wiki. Anyone interested in logging in and having me walk them through chargen, so I can have a hands-on sort of approach to making the guide?