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@faraday @surreality
Suffice it to say, I think given the variable tolerances of different people for different levels of criticism, I don't think you want what you claim you're asking for, or it's not realistic. Split the hairs however you want, on language and what is 'constructive' and what isn't, but people will react to things very differently. Your very ongoing line of complaint basically proves that the forum that exists can't suit your needs, which is why I think it's perfectly reasonable to create a new one for you.
We can go back to @surreality's last game project thread as an example of this, where basically any level of 'I don't like this theme element' or 'I think this won't work' was interpreted as 'you are the destroyers of all hopes and dreams.' Heck, even ignore my interactions with her, since I'm obviously satan or whatever. She reacted this way to @Arkandel too, in the same discussion. I'm pretty sure you all regard him positively.
So call the kinder forum whatever you want to satisfy that it sounds like it's focused on mature, intelligent discussion, but you want a (more) heavily moderated forum where people are very limited in the degree they can dissent or criticize the primary poster. Hell, @surreality even created a prototype for what I'm describing in her thread, where she tried to limit the scope of discussion but people didn't feel she had that authority. Create a forum where she has that authority!
Seriously, I'm really not your enemy in getting what you want, but you need to be realistic about what you're really asking for.
@Arkandel, I actually don't mind being an example, because I think it is an effective example of the problem.
@Arkandel claimed that having areas that only one faction could access -- the example being a single bar for water-breathing folk -- would destroy the game. Full stop. This is demonstrably untrue and has been proving so for decades over endless games; many games do this, have done this, and continue to do this now and it does not destroy the game.
This was also the first response in a thread that asked specific questions; this was a question wholly unrelated to any of the questions asked. So from post #1, the questions asked were completely ignored, and the tone was set that they could be completely ignored and 'this is a free for all' was established by a well-respected member of the community.
@bored, you claimed that you hated a thematic element 'because it is only ever stupid end of the world plots'. When told there was no intention for any end of the world plots, or anything involving those aspects of the inspiration, you kept banging on endlessly about it anyway as though this had not been said at all. I'm not the kind of person who spends a ton of time building something just to drop people into the middle of 'and now you have to work against impossible odds before everything explodes!' -- it's completely contrary to the 'I want people to be able to build and add things to this world' principle I was working with as the entire basis of the project. "Ha ha now staff's going to come in and smash all of your creations!" is about as contrary to that goal as one could possibly get.
p.s. I don't think you're satan at all -- I joke about you 'being my favorite grudgewank' but I don't actually have a grudge. I do think you were going way too far into personal attacks and deliberately reading nasty whatever into things, but if that was a sin that marked someone for all eternity around here, nobody would be talking to anybody any more. You often make a lot of good points; I think you dig in your heels on an overblown negative view of someone sometimes that isn't accurate, but again... kinda common and not some huge years-long reason for war to break out.
@Roz I can PM it if you want on that point; I've seen you stand up against that stuff more than a few times and have no qualms saying so, or that it's appreciated when you do.
