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@ZombieGenesis said in Good TV:
RE: Dracula
That really bums me out. I just finished the second episode and now I'm not sure if I even want to watch the 3rd ep. I was iffy on the first ep(many parts came off more like a parody to me than a reimagining) but the second episode was really good, IMO. Bah.
I will echo Arkandel that you'll enjoy the mini series much more if you leave the third episode
I ditto that echo.
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Man I fuckin LOVE that Witcher did so well that it's considered a contender of the Mandalorian.
We get Baby Yoda memes and an influx of metal bands covering Jaskier tunes. Everyone wins.
The fucking SMARTEST thing the Witcher did was spread out skin color amongst the characters. The games are very monochromatic, and in that one subtle move they avoided negative critique. Even better? I get the sense that the fans of the books and games didn't care at all about the casting of Yen and Triss that it didn't even register. People WANTED this.
+1 to good fans being good fans.
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@Ghost Now if they just don't pull an American Gods. (Which I never watched and am now glad I don't pay for Starz.)
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@bored I have no idea either way, but sadly... I'm sure you're right. I'm going to sit over here pretending Ghost is right, though, because it makes me feel less like dying inside.
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Even better? I get the sense that the fans of the books and games didn't care at all about the casting of Yen and Triss that it didn't even register. People WANTED this.
It must be nice being this naively positive
Your sunshine and grace is so on-point that it's inspiring.
Alas, despite some 2018 drama about rumors of Ciri being recast racially, the series (Netflix) premiere and to-date fandom has not received a lot of critical social media drama about the castings of Triss and Yen. At least very little from what I've seen. This is a good thing.
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@Ghost You mean there's no 'They made Johnny Storm black?!' equivalent? I roll to disbelieve.
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@Ghost You mean there's no 'They made Johnny Storm black?!' equivalent? I roll to disbelieve.
I'm sure theres some of that, somewhere. What I'm saying is that I think it's nice that they were able to darken Triss and Yen in the Nertflerks series without there being some big social media blowup like there was with Johnny Storm.
I dont doubt that theres some asshole on 4chan griping somewhere about it. I'm just happy that we aren't seeing these actresses chased off of Twitter over it.
I cant remember seeing a non-white character in any of the Witcher games. This production company made a great decision, and it has paid off nicely. Nice to see that. That's all I'm sayin. Feels like progress.
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@Ghost I don't know what your source really is on 'it didn't happen.' There was an entire narrative around the showrunners being total SJWs and turning the whole thing into a farce (there's still a rumor that the Nilfgaard armor looks like balls as an attack on the patriarchy?), and yes, a lot of 'if Ciri isn't white we riot,' etc. It was fairly evident on r/witcher source
There's also the Polish fandom, which in general wasn't positive toward any race bending. I think you may be reacting to a lower level of blow-up than say, Star Wars, without taking into account that the fandom there is several orders of magnitude larger.
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@Ghost I don't know what your source really is on 'it didn't happen.' There was an entire narrative around the showrunners being total SJWs and turning the whole thing into a farce (there's still a rumor that the Nilfgaard armor looks like balls as an attack on the patriarchy?), and yes, a lot of 'if Ciri isn't white we riot,' etc. It was fairly evident on r/witcher source
There's also the Polish fandom, which in general wasn't positive toward any race bending. I think you may be reacting to a lower level of blow-up than say, Star Wars, without taking into account that the fandom there is several orders of magnitude larger.
You are 100% correct that there was a thread from a year ago and that despite me above clearly stating that I didnt doubt there was some dissent I agree 100% that you believe I said it didnt happen.
You're missing the point of what I was trying to say because you're focusing on being antagonistic.
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Actually, I think he's just disagreeing with you and providing his sources. You said you hadn't seen it, he said he had, and showed you where it was.
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Actually, I think he's just disagreeing with you and providing his sources. You said you hadn't seen it, he said he had, and showed you where it was.
No, they're arguing that I'm wrong about 'it didnt happen' when I never disputed that it did.
All. I. Am. Saying. Is. That. I. Think. It. Is. Progress. And. That. It. Wasn't. A. Point. Of. Extreme. Social. Media. Or. News. Response.
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Now I think you're missing the point of what other people are saying because you're so focused on being antagonistic.
ETA: The point being that actually, there WAS an extreme social media response about a year ago about this very thing. I saw a ton of it, Bored obviously did too. Like holy crap there was tons of screaming in the communities I see. You didn't see it, ok, but the point is just that it really was totally there.
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I've seen a fair amount of complaints regarding the Netflix Triss but it seems most people overlook it just because the Netflix Geralt was so extremely on point and Triss isn't particularly central to the book plot. Meanwhile the Anya Chalotra Yennefer looks close enough to the Witcher 3 version that I don't think most viewers thought about it as a diversity thing.
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@Groth Yea Triss was good stuff in terms of casting. I think the major appearance points of Triss are red hair and freckles. The casting nailed that. I got the sense that they changed her behavior a bit to avoid her being a bit of a Yen clone. It would have been a lot stranger had they made Yen less Yen.
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@Groth Yea Triss was good stuff in terms of casting. I think the major appearance points of Triss are red hair and freckles. The casting nailed that. I got the sense that they changed her behavior a bit to avoid her being a bit of a Yen clone. It would have been a lot stranger had they made Yen less Yen.
The single wierdest casting choice to me is Fringilla because unlike a lot of other characters she has a lot of family and is supposed to hail from what is basically fantasy france. Does that mean all of Toussaint will now be sub-saharan African or what?
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@Groth Yea Triss was good stuff in terms of casting. I think the major appearance points of Triss are red hair and freckles. The casting nailed that. I got the sense that they changed her behavior a bit to avoid her being a bit of a Yen clone. It would have been a lot stranger had they made Yen less Yen.
The single wierdest casting choice to me is Fringilla because unlike a lot of other characters she has a lot of family and is supposed to hail from what is basically fantasy france. Does that mean all of Toussaint will now be sub-saharan African or what?
Yeah, no telling, really. Not sure.
I wonder what it would be like to sit in on a design panel with a producer while making decisions like that.
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The only complaints I've heard about The Witcher is that the actress playing Yennifer was a poor casting choice and did not convey the aura of charisma that Yennifer was portrayed as having in the books.
Which is just like...their opinion, man.
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The only complaints I've heard about The Witcher is that the actress playing Yennifer was a poor casting choice and did not convey the aura of charisma that Yennifer was portrayed as having in the books.
Which is just like...their opinion, man.
Which is weird to me. I think the actress really did a great job at channeling Yen's sense of disdain and disenchantment. I always read her as seeing her old self every time she looked in the mirror. She did well