Dec 7, 2015, 7:11 PM
Well that's why I made the cg. The game is running. I'm just doing testing. I suppose there's no reason not to open it up and let others test it too.
Fading Suns
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Well that's why I made the cg. The game is running. I'm just doing testing. I suppose there's no reason not to open it up and let others test it too.
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@Alzie said:
5000 lines of code later, fading suns cg complete and all i've learned is that the book is really confusing and CG is so open ended that it makes coders cry tears of blood.
Newb.
When you're done properly coding nWoD2 character generation, you can taste the tears of my soul.
That said, yeah I bet it was frustrating.
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Did somebody say Fading Suns?
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@deadculture said:
@Cirno said:
Did somebody say Fading Suns?
Nope. It's all in your head.
Ah.
Well, then, I propose a Fading Suns game, or, perhaps, a FS-inspired Alternate Universe game, with black people in it.
It can have people of other races inside, but my proposal here is a setting where all the major nobles are black, and they exercise their dominion over a mix of White, Asian, and hispanic peoples.
While I would prefer that it not begin, or end, as a sex game, if only to prove that I would, in fact, like to remain true to the source material (to a certain degree, at least), one cannot deny that there are those who would find this concept appealing, in a certain sense.
Does this sound good? Would anyone like to play on it?
Here's a quick backstory I rustled up in five seconds:
In the early days of humanity, the small kingdoms of Africa merged into one super-state that then took control of the entire Earth, eventually pressing into space.
<Insert Fading Suns storyline here, except with an Afrocentric bent>
Today, in the world of the Fading Suns, Emperor Musa XXXXVI, many-times-descended son of Mansa Musa of Mali, rules over a fractured, rotting-from-within space empire. The stars are going out.
In this setting, black people have psychic powers due to the concentration of melanin in their skin, which, in this universe, acts rather like the Midichlorians of Force Users in SW.
On the outer edges of space, smaller monarchies attempt to eat away at the control of the African Dominion - the Greater Orion Reich, comprised mostly of white people, the Eastern Prosperity Union, comprised mostly of Asian people, and the Castle Federation, comprised of Hispanic people.
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@Cirno said:
@deadculture said:
@Cirno said:
Did somebody say Fading Suns?
Nope. It's all in your head.
Ah.
Well, then, I propose a Fading Suns game, or, perhaps, a FS-inspired Alternate Universe game, with black people in it.
It can have people of other races inside, but my proposal here is a setting where all the major nobles are black, and they exercise their dominion over a mix of White, Asian, and hispanic peoples.
While I would prefer that it not begin, or end, as a sex game, if only to prove that I would, in fact, like to remain true to the source material (to a certain degree, at least), one cannot deny that there are those who would find this concept appealing, in a certain sense.
Does this sound good? Would anyone like to play on it?
Here's a quick backstory I rustled up in five seconds:
In the early days of humanity, the small kingdoms of Africa merged into one super-state that then took control of the entire Earth, eventually pressing into space.
<Insert Fading Suns storyline here, except with an Afrocentric bent>
Today, in the world of the Fading Suns, Emperor Musa XXXXVI, many-times-descended son of Mansa Musa of Mali, rules over a fractured, rotting-from-within space empire. The stars are going out.
In this setting, black people have psychic powers due to the concentration of melanin in their skin, which, in this universe, acts rather like the Midichlorians of Force Users in SW.
On the outer edges of space, smaller monarchies attempt to eat away at the control of the African Dominion - the Greater Orion Reich, comprised mostly of white people, the Eastern Prosperity Union, comprised mostly of Asian people, and the Castle Federation, comprised of Hispanic people.
Alzie's code is on a website, do go ahead and download it and build it up.
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I shall require a host.
I could use the spare server space that my employers use, but that might lead me to be fired, and that would be uncomfortable.
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@Cirno Spend your own money with one, dude, I'm not here to provide you with solutions. Make the game you want to see played and all that shit.
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@deadculture said:
@Cirno Spend your own money with one, dude, I'm not here to provide you with solutions. Make the game you want to see played and all that shit.
Can do. It'll be a piece of cake. Besides, I want to launch three games, including this one, so I'll need all space I can get.
I'm kinda wonky at coding, but hell. Everyone has to learn sometime, and I'm sure I can get a helping hand here if I run into an issue, anyway.
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@cirno and @deadculture Cirno has a host, Cirno need only ask.
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@Alzie said:
@cirno and @deadculture Cirno has a host, Cirno need only ask.
daps
Much obliged.
Hey, do you want to play with my African Alternate Universe FS game?
You can roll a black woman with large breasts who is a Space Admiral. (Just a suggestion.)
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@Cirno I'm there.
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We need this so much. Just do it. I read a kinda click bait article as to why the future likes to subjugate white people (or something like that).
So this fits with that them, let's draw from Dune and make psychic stuff cool, powerful, and religious! -
Ok now I want to play.
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@Songtress said:
We need this so much. Just do it. I read a kinda click bait article as to why the future likes to subjugate white people (or something like that).
So this fits with that them, let's draw from Dune and make psychic stuff cool, powerful, and religious!In a way, you have inaugurated what might well be the storyline, or at least the first major plot, of this game. I was thinking about what to do, and then your post made me think that I should begin the game with the Lion Empire (full title: The Lion of Judah's Most Serene Imperium, with the Lion throne being this alternate universe's Afrocentric, majority black population equivalent of FS's Phoenix Empire and Phoenix Throne) oppressing the two smaller nations - the Orion Reich (majority white population) and the Eastern Union (majority Asian population), by occupying a few of their worlds in a bid to expand the domain of the Empire.
The Empire enters the worlds under the pretext of protecting the Reich and the Union from "cells of dangerous terrorists" (Ah, you say you've heard this story before somewhere?) and sets up military dictatorships on each world, with a Lion Empire governor-general keeping the citizens in the iron grip of totalitarian control.
I would prefer that the nations not be at war, but instead an uneasy, Cold War-like peace, in which proxy wars are fought between small groups, with the Empire, the Reich, and the Union funding + supplying the smaller groups. That way, we can have hilarious scenes where the heads of the Great Houses of each nation make nice with each other and regularly see each other at diplomatic meetings, while, in fact, their respective peoples distrust and fear each other.
The Castle Federation (majority Hispanic population) is a neutral actor in this drama, although I will not rule out the possibility of their allying with one of the major belligerents in this conflict.
Meanwhile, all three nations pretend to be outwardly friendly. If people would prefer that it be more like Galactic World War 2 with the Reich and the Union openly attacking the outer edges of the Empire, that is fine with me too.
The Lion of Judah Empire should be a pastiche of the established Fading Suns Phoenix Empire, with elements of African culture.
The name of the empire and their flag is derivative of the Ethiopian Empire's "Lion of Judah" flag.
The upper class, the nobles, and the Emperor wear extraordinary amounts of gold, the bows of their space-ships have designs similar to African war masks...
The knights and the Battle Brothers wear armor partly similar to European medieval armor, with elements from the Kingdom of Benin's warriors.
Basically, what I'm aiming for in the end-result is something like the following image, but in spaaaaace.
While I would like to have this game span an entire set of worlds, and enter space, we will probably just start out on one of the Contested Worlds under the dominion of the Empire.
I will launch this game first since everyone is excited for it.
You will be able to roll a character from all of the nations, so you can be an antagonist who is a Nordic, blonde, blue-eyed, milky-white skinned Reich noble, or a refined Asian Eastern Prosperity Union scholar.
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Intriguing. So where do the Bennett gesseritt/New Sisterhood types and cool Psionic powers come in. Tribal Great mother's who guide their sons and daughters with silk hiding steeling. Sons who are traded and arranged for marriages. Women who war and dance for the dead.
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As someone with a theological background, I have to make note that the Ethiopians, according to their tradition, are seen as a union between the Queen of Saba (Sheba) and King Solomon. (1 Kings 10:13 "King Solomon gave the queen of Saba all that her heart's desired and that which she asked for, besides what he had given her out of his royal bounty. Then she left and returned with her retinue to her own country.") The heart's desire was the seed of David (Menelik I, the first Emperor of Ethiopia, was Solomon's son).
It is also cool because they are the only modern royal family that I can think of that styled themselves "Cousins of Christ" since they could literally trace their line to the historical Solomon.
It would be pretty interesting considering that the Ethiopians are Monophysitic Orthodox. Their liturgics are similar to the Eastern Orthodox Church, which is what Fading Suns' Urth Orthodox Church is based on.
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As a point of interest, modern Ethiopia used to be part of the Aksum Kingdom which was a fairly powerful empire in the first millenium. I've had coins from there so did a little reading on it. It's pretty cool. That it, and other non-western cultures, are pretty much completely ignored in history classes is a disgrace.
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Just popping in to say I'm ahead of you guys by an inch: those reasons are exactly why I chose the imagery and symbols of the Ethiopian Empire. You're all doing a bang-up job nonetheless - I'm tickled pink that you picked up on why I chose these particular elements. You've hit the nail on the head.
As you can see, this is a very tightly constructed idea I've put forth, here. You're all making me want to publish a roleplaying game completely independent of FS, based on what we've built in this thread. I wonder if I could get it Kickstarted?
I'll return to this thread later; I've got a few loose ends to tie up in the Arendelle MU* thread and must finish working that out first before I address everyone's concerns here.