Posts made by Bellecourt

@Misadventure it should have been a link to this story with a 2013 grrm quote about making all the valyrian families essentially poc but with silver hair and then him worrying about similarities to drow and how the problems with some elements of their surviving blood might play with the Targs also having a tendency for a lot of them to be twisted and monstrous as well. Rather than the original link to the site, here is a link to the livejournal of grrms about it that the article is quoting. It starts with someone else's question which he then goes on to answer: https://grrm.livejournal.com/326474.html?thread=17886026#t17886026 see if that works any better?

That's an interesting take, @Ganymede although in that case it should probably at least be taken into account in all that outrage on the authors behalf that he was considering making Valyrians (both Targaryens and Velayrons) black at one point: https://www.google.com/amp/s/winteriscoming.net/2019/10/16/george-r-r-martin-considered-making-targaryens-black/amp/ so while yes there's definitely some lacking diversity and maybe some racism in the source material, the author himself was on board for darker Valyrians and more or less just felt like the thought came to him a little late to implement it practically if the quote here is to be believed. So at least some of it is from beyond the source material and author.

@Derp that part I get and is fair. I just have a strong hate for racism and it rankled and made me defensive all over again.

@Derp she spoke pretty regularly and at length about it on her facebook if you were involved with 'the people of the page' and regularly answered fan questions about such things.

@Derp you mean me I'm quite sure and I dropped it not because I was wrong but because it was pointless to argue with a moderator. I have Anne Rice's actual direct words on it right here: https://64.media.tumblr.com/0474f971cc7f40f0656d2066244f213b/4c06280ce62663e1-b0/s640x960/b76126eba29bf021d43085ad9843adfbefef98ac.png

It's still pointless to argue with a mod about something but I do wish you wouldn't single me out as 'looking for a purity that doesn't exist' when the author themselves says their universe works this way and you are using it to lump me in with a racist.

@Derp
Except Lestat explicitly says the dick don't work:
https://iwantmyiwtv.com/tag/priapus-at-the-gate/

"I studied my reflection … and the organ, the organ we don’t need, poised as if ready for what it would never again know how to do or want to do, marble, a Priapus at a gate” – Lestat, Queen of the Damned

So... My problem is that it literally conflicts with a point explicitly laid out in the books. I am pretty sure you are either remembering it wrong or sourcing it from a book after the first three in the series, or the Vampire Armand, or Pandora, all of which I have read and in none of which there are vampires fucking. Its the same reason I am refusing to watch Rings of Power over the dwarven chicks without beards part. Either be true to the source material in places where it is explicitly establishing rules for how the setting works or own up to it as fanfic.

I am deeply disappointed by the idea that they are going to "make the subtext sexuality maintext" in the Interview with the Vampire series because that entirely eviscerates the point of Anne Rice vampires as sensual but not sexual creatures and directly contradicts the source material talking about how they basically can't fuck. I mean, by all means, make the queer relationship between Louis and Lestat more front and center, but there are asexual queer relationships amidst mortals too, you don't just have to make it about fucking and destroy the reference material in it. Not to mention how much more awkward and cringe it makes the subsequent pseudorelationship that Louis has with Claudia if her vampires suddenly are sexual and not just emotionally intimate. I just can't. And then for people to act like it's written up to be more for Anne Rice fans than general viewers... like not even. I'm a huge Anne Rice fan and I am pissed about the change, more so than the questionable other changes to time period and aging Claudia up further to 14 rather than down toward 5 or so as she was in the books. Come on man. I just. fumes When this comes out can someone else who is a big Anne Rice fan let me know how it goes because the journalists covering it are not giving me much hope for what interest I'm going to find there.

I'm still looking to fill this role if anyone is interested in playing a fairly new to the nightlife (5 years) vampire with some older connections and a coterie already on grid to kick it with.

@Ghost glad you got out of that situation and absolutely agree about the Hog Pit.

I don't have a terribly large number of posts for someone who has been a member of this forum for five years now. I had a lot of posts initially when I made the account. I was very excited to be playing my first mush character when I joined, and I did so because I kept hearing in oocs about this place. I was very horrified by having things like, my character being icly aggressive toward a rival covenant's pcs while oocly I was actively defending their players, combined with me not making their builds quickly enough on the heels of my having had a heart attack and being hospitalized for over a week for the ensuing heart failure turned into a wave of 'bad actor' and 'they were attacking me' (when I had receipts showing me defending them instead) turned into this whole big thing that resulted in so such discomfort in engaging with the community that I started trying to delete every post I had made and actively changed my username to try to attempt to keep ffrom being actively dragged for... I guess not being a part of the circle of winners?

Recently, after the forum split, I tried cross posting both here and there about a role I was looking to fill. Just to compare and see. The thread here was actively engaged with, upvoted, and interest and discussion engaged over a dozen times. The one over there didn't get a single response or upvote. Now, as someone who studied psychology at the collegiate level and has an understanding of neurobiolpgy, I am not surprised at all by the results of my experiment. After all, I was part of the 'out' group, and no one was getting feelgood brain chemicals for engaging (see:oxytocin as love and hate chemical).

There don't need to be accusations or speculation made about cliques to understand how they work and form when you understand oxytocin. I will say this: I am really happy to feel like there is a good chance that when trying to engage with other mushers here there will be some small response and probably positive in tone, after the split. Where before it, I lurked without engaging for fear of being dogpiled and wildly misrepresented again. So to me, this fixed the community. And it is unsurprising that they are continuing the pound puppy party over there. How many new people have we all been warned off of over there in the two months time the place has existed?

/my 2 cents

Edit to fix typos.

@Ganymede crafting system?

swoons

@Ganymede that was the one I chose, bit I used the Carnival here because it was the closest match and what it was based on. Also, I see it said you did the writeup. It rocks.

@Derp currently the character is doing Invictus stuff but also has strong ties to the Circle of the Crone. Bloodline is the Carnival but not necessarily something tje character is super open about. Not much in the way of plans as I am waiting for approval to be finalized and so don't have anything brewing on grid yet. Platonic or not is kinda flexible. There are no expectations of romantic interest but my particular character is fairly touchy feely for a vampire and a daeva level flirt. She actually has a love interest of sorts already but that is very nebulous due to the sort of hanging all over and flirting and it never having been an exclusive thing. Really as a player I am looking for someone who wants to do like odd dynasty shit. I have never had the chancs to explore that element of WoD and it is a fascinating one that I have seen other people really seem to enjoy. As Sires go she is probably more loose on ths reigns so to speak than many, like, that is part of why I made it so broad as to where they even might be. She spent her mortal life in almost Victorian times and most of her Requiem subjugated by a rival covenant so no desire to make another vampire only to have them feel penned in, if that makes sense. Said other player currently as love interest is hardcore Circle, and is her broodmate so it would be sort of a tighter three person dynamic than usual but not necessarily romantic unless it shakes out that way organically once in game. Sorry for rambling, but excited. It's been a while since I have played a WoD game much and looking forward to it but not trying to put too many preconceived goals or hopes because that is the way to get them shattered. I know for her personally probably one of her more immediate goals would be repairing relations between her and the Circle.

Looking for someone to play the Childe of my character. They would have been a Daeva, Embraced about five years ago and are male, were embraced for their resemblance so dark hair and blue eyes but other than that left it pretty vague. If interested I can give more detail as to what they might have seen if they stayed with the character during that time.