Posts made by Cirno

@HelloRaptor

1.). Your Polish forbear need not apologize; he's Polish, and, thus, an uninvolved party.

I don't know why white people always collapse with fear at the idea of having to apologize for the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade(TAST); subsequently, they say silly things like this.

"OMG, maybe EVERYBODY might hafta apologize for slavery!"

No. No, they won't.

I hear this argument a lot, HR.

2.) I have some familiarity with Medieval Poland, but @BetterJudgment is the Tenured Medieval History Professor, and I'll be goddamned if I'm going to usurp his position.

Maybe you could pay for me to go to Uni and get a Ph.D. in medieval European history, though. Perhaps you could all pitch in; this appears to be a forum chock-full of Rich White People.

I think Poland had serfs. I think that; it may not be true.

@Corruption

There is only one correct answer to your post.

@HelloRaptor said:

I'll take adjucating damage levels on a torn anus...

And, just like that, I have become inflamed with a desire to make a WoD game in which HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE is a central part of the gameplay.

It would be like any other WoD game, except with 50% more rape. Graphic, unsettling, violent rape, with vomiting, screaming, and crying.

And it would be set in Equestria.

@DamnitJim said:

The serious philosophical subtexts to all this narcissistic ancestor worship...

1. Do we believe in collective reward/punishment? Or do we believe in individual reward / punishment? I'm firmly opposed to collective rewards/punishments.

It is not moral for Israeli soldiers and policymakers to place a de facto blockade on the Palestinian Territories and thus punish ordinary civilian Palestinians for the misdeeds of some radical Palestinians.

It is not moral for radical Palestinians to engage in violence towards random civilian Israelis in retaliation for the actions of Israeli soldiers and policymakers.

So I reject all responsibility for the bad behavior of other whites, people born in the 1970s, males, Californians, straights, college grads. Those individuals did what they did. I did what I did.

All this becomes vastly more obvious once we consider than from this point onward, people of 'mixed descent' will become the fastest growing segment of the population.

(Nota bene: This emphatically does not rule out having a social safety net. It merely says that a social safety net and other social justice considerations should be historically blind. E.g. class-based, not race-based.)

2. What is the statute of limitations on historical misdeeds? I'm firmly of the belief "Individuals can press for damages that occurred to their immediate ancestors, but no farther back."

It is morally to baseless demand that Russian nationals be granted special immigration or other rights to the territories owned by the Russian Empire in 1848.

It is morally to baseless demand that Mexican nationals be granted special immigration or other rights to territories owned by the Mexican republic in 1848.

OK, now hopefully I've really got Cirno really horngry (horny-angry) and much fun will ensue.

(Edit: minor grammar fixes.)

I ain't even angry, really, on account of having heard this argument fairly frequently, over the past few years.

To be honest, we don't want you to pay for your ancestor's indiscretions - it would be nice, especially since the descendants of Holocaust victims extracted payment from the Germans whose ancestors were involved in the Holocaust (it seems the Holocaust survivors and their families believe in Collective Punishment), but it seems that will probably never happen.

Mostly? We just want the descendants of slavemasters to admit that their forbears were nigger-killing slavemasters, instead of "legitimate businessmen", and that much of the capital now called "old money" in The USA is, in fact, money that was earned on the backs of slaves.

@Thenomain

There are black citizens of those countries. Shocking, I know.

I've always wanted to go to Germany and bag a tall German fräulein with long blonde hair and big breasts, myself.

I'd try to go two for two, and net a slender German youth with pouty lips, as well.

@Thenomain

Everyone else declared their whiteness; yourself included. Mono did not, therefore, I gave him The Treatment, as you said.

But now he admitted it and everyone is happy now! I bear him no ill will, despite claims to the contrary.

I do not deny that emphasis on race is dumb, but the rules have already been made; it was not my decision to divide humans up according to their color.

@DamnitJim

I admit to a slight tingling in my loins at your suggestion, here.

@Thenomain

Scientifically, we're all Homo sapiens.

Politically speaking, not so much. If you really want an end to the whole Race dialogue, we've gotta destroy the current political systems entrenched in our society.

However, talk like this gets one branded an Internet Activist, or a SJW, or whatever label the Establishment is currently using to crush dissent.

@Monogram

So you're white.

There, that wasn't so hard, was it? I don't believe in the whole "we're all human" mess. The lines have been drawn already; they aren't going to go away now just because they've become a liability.

Take a lesson from @Thenomain, chum. Have the temerity to own up to your whiteness.

Also, if you have any sisters, I'd like to meet 'em. I've never had a (diluted) Swiss maiden before.

@DamnitJim

I know you're just kidding, but:

In the event of a Race War, or a War Race, I have purchased guns and ammunition, and have logged a decent amount of time at the shooting range.

This here's one darkie the Aryans won't catch unprepared! I'm not trying to be an Internet Tough Guy, I'm just saying.

@Arkandel said:

follow causes of the week from their couch ("fuck big business, man!")

Yeah, how dare those people! Having political opinions and everything! We should drag them off their couches and put them in gas chambers, or something.

@2mspris said:

It tends to take a lengthy explanation about the rewards from Cooperative Storytelling to get anyone to really understand...

There are rewards? News to me; from the way WORA bangs on, one would think Cooperative Storytelling is nothing but one hours-long shit-show, propagated by gibbering loonies.

I jest, of course, but you must admit that the hobby is displayed as being Less Than Ideal, here. I credit this place with dampening my enthusiasm about MU*ing, personally.

Understand this: I would never attempt to explain MU*ing.

It's like trying to explain the fucking Burning Man festival.

@Chime

Considering how openly hostile White Americans have been (and, to a certain extent, still are) towards Afro-Americans, I understand the Black Female's frustration with the Black Male's fascination with his (supposed) Enemy.

300 years of slavery and 100+ years of segregation, et al., make a very convincing argument on their behalf. I mean, why should we want to ally ourselves with people who once peeled our skins off while we were still alive, hung us by our necks, and many other things that don't bear thinking about?

However, the Official Story is that all of those things happened In The Past, and, therefore, We Should Not Mention Them.

Here are some videos by a black woman that explain these concepts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb08kX6MjwM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqoNdsul09o

She also explains why mixed-race people are A Threat To Society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03gtsrS-lio

Amusingly, she also did a six-part video series concerning the danger East Asian females pose towards Black females, but Youtube took it down. Sadface.

@Chime said:

Though I will always have a very soft spot for tall, blonde, athletic women.

According to some black women, tall blonde athletic white women are The Face Of Evil Itself.

I'm no Christian, but, apparently, according to our black sisters, Satan Herself is a white woman.

@Luna said:

@ThatOneDude Everyone knows brown people don't have jobs. Sorry, I don't make the rules. Oh wait, I'm white so I do.

White people have made me so afraid to compliment a black woman on anything. It's racist to mention hair or skin or anything. I gave up. I listen to my hip hop loud, I tell a girl when her weave is amazing and that I'm jelly how certain colors look sooooo good against their skin.

Aside from the racism factor, there is another reason why black women would be hostile towards you.

Certain Black women are bitterly angry at you and your white female compatriots for 'stealing their men'. They believe there is a secret Conspiracy among white females to interpose themselves between the black woman and the black male.

Ironically, white males think the same thing. They call it "Miscegenation", instead of "stealing black men", however, but it accounts to the same thing.

I have always said that black women and white males should form a Consortium of some sort; with the goal in mind of Preventing Black Men From Attaching Themselves To White Females.

@ThatOneDude said:

@Cirno I know, but the point is both don't mean shit or shouldn't. I have black friends and friends of the ethnicities you point out.

But not a lot. I'm willing to bet money on these two things, too:

1.) Your friends of other ethnicities most likely avoid your black friends. and would never invite them to their houses.

It's a subtle form of racism, not letting black people in your house. It is frequently practiced these days, too.

2.) You probably avoid going to their neighborhoods. I wouldn't be surprised if you did, though.

@ThatOneDude said:

@Cirno said:

Some trivia:

In my 25 years, I have had the racial epithet "nigger" directed at me by:

• Whites
• Chinese
• Japanese
• Hispanics
• Native Americans

Yes, I am, in fact, keeping score. I am indeed one of those Tremendously Bitter Black People who sincerely believe that other races are openly hostile to us.

Wow, WTF... No black people tossed that word at you? I'm not black and I get called nigga on the DAILY.

"nigga" != "Nigger".

One is an endearing term (that should be phased out).

The other is a hateful racial slur.

Also, I hope to god you don't use the word "nigga" . Like, at all. Ever.

Non-blacks who use the term need to have their shit slapped hard.

You don't have a lot of black friends, or you would know this.

Some trivia:

In my 25 years, I have had the racial epithet "nigger" directed at me by:

• Whites
• Chinese
• Japanese
• Hispanics
• Native Americans

Yes, I am, in fact, keeping score. I am indeed one of those Tremendously Bitter Black People who sincerely believe that other races are openly hostile to us.

My maternal grandfather was a Sub-Saharan African male with jet-black skin. He married a half-White, half-Native American woman, producing my mother and her sisters.

My maternal grandfather's ancestors were also Sub-Saharan Africans who were put on a ship and taken against their will into slavery.

I don't know about my maternal grandmother's family, other than that they were bigots who disowned my maternal grandmother for marrying a black man.

Therefore, my mother is half-black. She is lighter in color than myself, but she identifies as black, after a lifetime of being called The Black Girl, at the insurance company she worked for.

My father's family are all 100% Indians from India. They were all Indian peasants who grubbed in the dirt. I don't really care about them; they more or less disowned my father for marrying a non-Indian woman.

Indians: so racist.

I have no exciting ancestors; I am not descended from Jesse James or Washington.

I am the child of slaves and peasants.

I identify as a black person because I have dark skin, plump lips, a large nose, and when White people or East Asian people are angry at me, they call me "Nigger".

So. I am one of the black WORA Members, along with @goldfish .

I like blonde white females and east asian females; let's get that outta the way so we can move on.

@Luna gave me this idea, since she frequently mentions her awkward White Girl nature.

Furthermore, it's 2015, and dialogues about race are now common to the Internet - which, until very recently, was considered to be the bastion of all things White and Male, what with users circa 2003 cracking jokes about "no girls on Internet" and "black people don't know how to Internet". Saying that you were a woman or a minority on the Internet was certain to cause people to say that you were merely pretending to be a minority, or a woman, for the troll factor.

There are now forums like this one that require you to declare what race you are, your ancestry, your haplogroup, even.

So. Who do you think you are, WORA? What race are you? Which European (or otherwise) country do your ancestors hail from?