The hog pit was literally the dog's house on fire meme. "This is fine". Most toxic place anywhere.

And it wasn't like "okay well don't read it." That toxic banter would get into Discord groups, OOC game messages, etc. The shit would start here and then spread far and wide. It was inescapable.

And it wasn't like you could just "not read it." They'd trash talk people not even on the forum. Someone would log into a game and wonder why people were all of a sudden bailing on their plots, or they were suddenly receiving all these messages or pages or mail or whatever.

There'd be some IC notification about something, then people would flock here to just rip it to shreds without any actual input from the people it affected in the game.

Literally just be talking shit to talk shit and about things they aren't even involved in or a part of.

On Arx, things said in the Hogpit would weave their way into the IC journals under the guise of "that's what my character thinks."

Then people would come and be like "oh my mental health!' while they were actively participating in that cesspool of filthy trash talk. lol - so also no wins for self-awareness in that region of the forum.

If you want to call out bad OOC behavior - like stalkerish shit - and you have receipts - fine. But that's not what the hog pit was by a long shot.

These people trying to go out like a war heros or something. Or in Kanye's case, practically begging to be banned as if it were some badge of honor.

Like, just shut up and leave?

This narcissistic behavior is exactly what makes the hobby so toxic.

Off to find paradise by that giant dashboard in the sky

The incomparable Meat Loaf

Please never bring the hog pit back.

It had effects that would go beyond just the message board subscribers. It wasn't like this hidden enclave beyond the view or senses of anyone who "opted out." The amount of manufactured and unnecessary drama that spilled out into the games themselves, discord chats, etc. is incalculable. And yeah - I subscribed because one day I was minding my own business and suddenly started getting paged by all these people asking me about some made-up, misconstrued BS that was emanating from that cess pit.

The hog pit was literally the dog's house on fire meme. "This is fine". Most toxic place anywhere.

And it wasn't like "okay well don't read it." That toxic banter would get into Discord groups, OOC game messages, etc. The shit would start here and then spread far and wide. It was inescapable.

And it wasn't like you could just "not read it." They'd trash talk people not even on the forum. Someone would log into a game and wonder why people were all of a sudden bailing on their plots, or they were suddenly receiving all these messages or pages or mail or whatever.

There'd be some IC notification about something, then people would flock here to just rip it to shreds without any actual input from the people it affected in the game.

Literally just be talking shit to talk shit and about things they aren't even involved in or a part of.

On Arx, things said in the Hogpit would weave their way into the IC journals under the guise of "that's what my character thinks."

Then people would come and be like "oh my mental health!' while they were actively participating in that cesspool of filthy trash talk. lol - so also no wins for self-awareness in that region of the forum.

If you want to call out bad OOC behavior - like stalkerish shit - and you have receipts - fine. But that's not what the hog pit was by a long shot.

These people trying to go out like a war heros or something. Or in Kanye's case, practically begging to be banned as if it were some badge of honor.

Like, just shut up and leave?

This narcissistic behavior is exactly what makes the hobby so toxic.

The hedgehog?

It had effects that would go beyond just the message board subscribers. It wasn't like this hidden enclave beyond the view or senses of anyone who "opted out." The amount of manufactured and unnecessary drama that spilled out into the games themselves, discord chats, etc. is incalculable. And yeah - I subscribed because one day I was minding my own business and suddenly started getting paged by all these people asking me about some made-up, misconstrued BS that was emanating from that cess pit.

No. The Hog Pit was a worthless, vile shit talking club that the word is better off not having around. Like go smoke a cigarette or rub one out instead.

Please never bring the hog pit back.

Off to find paradise by that giant dashboard in the sky

The incomparable Meat Loaf

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Betty White

@thhppbbbt Yeah I'd pay for a MU* the same way I pay for any entertainment. I'd easily pay $100 a year to play Arx on subscription via an easy platform like Patreon. I would not pay via a donate button because filling out my shit every time is a pain in the ass.

If I had to, I would do an Ares subscription for unlimited web portal access to all connected MU*s.

I'm not paying for TS.

I wouldn't pay for special in-game objects or extra energy bolts or whatever. I won't even do that with video games.

If I really enjoyed a game's freemium bar RP, I probably wouldn't pay the upgrade to have my shit GMed because I don't want to plan shit out and then herd cats. But I would pay for someone to read my sheet and make up stuff to GM for me and get the other PCs signed up and all that, then I just log in and go.

If it were kosher, I'd pay a good ST to exclusively ST my stuff on my schedule.

Hell, I'd pay someone to read all my character's RP logs (or select ones) and write a book based on them just for me.

Someone here is being paid to make cat drawings of PCs. That's super smart.

There's probably not a limit to the related products or services that anyone might pay for, but there is no real market.

If there were a MARKET for making money off RP Mus, someone WOULD be making money off RP Mus.