I don't think Custodius destroyed that Fading Suns game... it was more about bad staffers. Like the main staffer Paulus would set a battle for Saturday at 2 PM. He'd log on, then say, "I need to go bake a cake..." and then not respond to pages for 5 hours.
EDIT: it was fudge, not cake, sorry
@nyctophiliac Yeah where is the social combat? I also suggested dance combat but they were very against it. Imagine if you could settle disagreements by dancing?
Actually that should be a duel for Thraxians. They just dance on the oars of their longboats, and whomever falls off the oars into the water is the loser. It has a very viking-pirate feel.
@BobGoblin said in Are there any active sci-fi MU*s these days?:
Well there's an abundance of nutjobs and spouses out there. This isn't really so much a nutjob as it is a control freak whose way is the only way no matter what.
Which is fine when you make a game.
Less fine when you inherit a game.
From my understanding; Generations of Darkness - Which became Dawn of Defiance, was run by a dramaking, who then turned it over to a husband/wife who eventually decided to stop being in charge of the game after dealing with high maintenance, constantly whining players. Two in particular (referred to as tacobus). Those two now run the game and take full credit for the game; which I find extra amusing to take credit for someone else's work when in fact they're merely caretakers.
When the GoD / DoD split happened, these two staffers (Who for sake of anonymity we'll refer to as Risi/Aria -- Oh wait, that's not really anonymous) staffed on GoD. Then left in an upset huff when they found out that the head admin was altering character sheets to his advantage. They then focused time on DoD. At which point they eventually became admin and then when everyone else left took over. And now alter character sheets to advantage.
The moral of the story? There is none.
Yo I don't know where this guy gets his information, but there wasn't that much drama here.
Vaapad began Generations of Darkness, a Star Wars game, but he wasn't really doing anything so he left it to some other wizards to help. Ataru took over and ran the game well. Ysalamir, Soresu, Djem So all helped. Kitty too but she was Ataru's girlfriend/wife and she was kind of crazy; back on WORA there was a thread where she went off on some people who criticized her bitchy style.
Vaapad altered character sheets. He also forced certain things to happen, like the end of the Clone Wars and Order 66, because he would come back from months of hiatus and say "I created this game. Do this or find another game, Ataru." So one time he came back and wanted something and made the same love it/leave it demand... so Ashen-Shugar, Ataru, and wizards migrated the game to a new site out of Vaapad's control. That game is now Dawn of Defiance, a very successful game to my knowledge.
Vaapad tried to keep his game going but his cheating and altering his character sheets made some of the staffers on his game mad, so I believe it shut down.
Ataru works a pretty demanding job, plus his wife Kitty lost interest in the star wars game a long time ago, so it's always difficult when one spouse invests all his time in running a game while his wife has no interest in said game any longer. He retired and left Dawn of Defiance in the hands of Trakata and Malacia who are pretty active wizards and run stuff a lot. I don't really know where this guy is getting the 'takes all the credit for' stuff... the game is a continuation. Games switch staffers over the years, it happens, and new staffers make it their own. There's nothing untoward or morally wrong about it. If you want to play drama queen, why not go over to the Hog Pit?
Fashion combat? Dance combat?
@BobGoblin said in Are there any active sci-fi MU*s these days?:
Well there's an abundance of nutjobs and spouses out there. This isn't really so much a nutjob as it is a control freak whose way is the only way no matter what.
Which is fine when you make a game.
Less fine when you inherit a game.
From my understanding; Generations of Darkness - Which became Dawn of Defiance, was run by a dramaking, who then turned it over to a husband/wife who eventually decided to stop being in charge of the game after dealing with high maintenance, constantly whining players. Two in particular (referred to as tacobus). Those two now run the game and take full credit for the game; which I find extra amusing to take credit for someone else's work when in fact they're merely caretakers.
When the GoD / DoD split happened, these two staffers (Who for sake of anonymity we'll refer to as Risi/Aria -- Oh wait, that's not really anonymous) staffed on GoD. Then left in an upset huff when they found out that the head admin was altering character sheets to his advantage. They then focused time on DoD. At which point they eventually became admin and then when everyone else left took over. And now alter character sheets to advantage.
The moral of the story? There is none.
Yo I don't know where this guy gets his information, but there wasn't that much drama here.
Vaapad began Generations of Darkness, a Star Wars game, but he wasn't really doing anything so he left it to some other wizards to help. Ataru took over and ran the game well. Ysalamir, Soresu, Djem So all helped. Kitty too but she was Ataru's girlfriend/wife and she was kind of crazy; back on WORA there was a thread where she went off on some people who criticized her bitchy style.
Vaapad altered character sheets. He also forced certain things to happen, like the end of the Clone Wars and Order 66, because he would come back from months of hiatus and say "I created this game. Do this or find another game, Ataru." So one time he came back and wanted something and made the same love it/leave it demand... so Ashen-Shugar, Ataru, and wizards migrated the game to a new site out of Vaapad's control. That game is now Dawn of Defiance, a very successful game to my knowledge.
Vaapad tried to keep his game going but his cheating and altering his character sheets made some of the staffers on his game mad, so I believe it shut down.
Ataru works a pretty demanding job, plus his wife Kitty lost interest in the star wars game a long time ago, so it's always difficult when one spouse invests all his time in running a game while his wife has no interest in said game any longer. He retired and left Dawn of Defiance in the hands of Trakata and Malacia who are pretty active wizards and run stuff a lot. I don't really know where this guy is getting the 'takes all the credit for' stuff... the game is a continuation. Games switch staffers over the years, it happens, and new staffers make it their own. There's nothing untoward or morally wrong about it. If you want to play drama queen, why not go over to the Hog Pit?
@nyctophiliac Yeah where is the social combat? I also suggested dance combat but they were very against it. Imagine if you could settle disagreements by dancing?
Actually that should be a duel for Thraxians. They just dance on the oars of their longboats, and whomever falls off the oars into the water is the loser. It has a very viking-pirate feel.
This looks like a fun game. SAGA is a bit complex but you start at level 4 so it shouldn't be a problem. I've never really seen a game that only had Rebellion and Civilian factions and was based on a single planet; that should be interesting. The conflict will mostly be with NPC Imperials and between the Rebel factions, one of which is regular rebels, the other being a more extreme mercenary element like Saw Gerrera in the most recent Rogue One movie.
I don't know why this guy is crapping on it in the advertisement thread. Obviously he has incorrectly conflated staffers here with staffers who did something like 10-15 years ago (Unsung Heroes was at least a decade+ ago, who remembers this crap?)
Still it feels weird if Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Yoda, Admiral Ackbar, and Mon Mothma are all palling around on Corellia. Corellia is a core world with a heavy Imperial presence in my mind. There will also be a bunch of PC Jedi who escaped Order 66 and disappeared into one of the most important Imperial planets where big Imperial ships are made.
Maybe it could work. But another thing that made Star Wars cool was space, space fights, ships flying around. With everyone on a single planet I don't know if you will still allow that.
This is a strange and interesting thematic choice. I see a few difficulties:
Why would any of these feature characters come to Corellia? I realize you were departing from established canon at an odd time period, which is interesting, but having Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Leia running around Corellia for reasons will be strange.
This is literally the center of Imperial naval power because all of those big v-shaped ships are built here at Corellia Drive Yards. I don't know how a rebellion would seize control of Corellia.
I don't think Custodius destroyed that Fading Suns game... it was more about bad staffers. Like the main staffer Paulus would set a battle for Saturday at 2 PM. He'd log on, then say, "I need to go bake a cake..." and then not respond to pages for 5 hours.
EDIT: it was fudge, not cake, sorry
Yeah it seemed to me that Wiz 1 ran it but Wiz 2 coded it all up. And it was like incredibly detailed code. Was that Dahan? Like it even had the ability to program shields so that they only faced fore instead of aft. And there was squad code and grenades and a map... it was insanely detailed.
Was D6 Dahan the Brak Sector MUX? I remember the head wizard wouldn't let that codebase go for some reason.