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@mietze said in FCs on Comic MUs:

Reading up on all the comic MU stuff makes me glad I never tried them, honestly it is pretty stunning to me that OCs are so disdained! Since I often like the worlds/themes of a genre or place more than I enjoy endless chaining to source material detail (and yes, I understand from reading wikipedia that comic book FCs probably have ten million ways you can go with any given character since they like to rewrite/mix up/alt universe it up) that I would not wish to offend someone by playing a beloved character "wrong" because I didn't know as much about them as a true fangirl should.

I'm not a huge comics fan (though I love reading about them as well as listening to friends talk about them). But I have gone to a few events for comics fans as the driver/interested companion/for interesting peoplewatching/because I really enjoy people, and I have seen people almost literally froth at the mouth over canon and deviations and stuff.

It seems like if you're not a totally ovaries to the wall fan person, but wanted to try out a new mush experience you never had before, that you'd want to pick either a super obscure (but how would you know if it was?!) or OC character!

I hate so so so much that this is such a prevelant attitude and I hate even more that people have been shitty enough to've made people think this way. It's why I've always had such a crazy hard time getting some of my friends to try comic places. Like I've even had people refuse to risk it even after I flat out said I'd write apps for them.

The single best Freefall and the single best Shadowcat I've ever seen were played by people who basically just knew about those chars rather than having exhaustively read their stuff. Like, the only Gen13 stuff Freefall ever read was Magical Drama Queen and a single story thing I put on imgur for her, and only AFTER she'd been totally killing it as Roxy for like three months.

@arkandel said in FCs on Comic MUs:

@Tempest It's absurd to think of FCs as some sort of singular entities whose ways and personalities are well defined.

With some creator-owned exceptions any given character has been written by multiple different writers over the years, so they have acted... inconsistently themselves in their own works. Some of those writers weren't nearly as good as others or had the FCs act in controversial ways to fit the story they were telling at the time, too.

The spirit of the character is what matters. It's hardly as if past a certain point reading more Batman gives you brand new insights into the character, all it gives you is more versions of the FC written by different people.

Yeah, I mean, even just with Illyana Rasputin alone there've been something like... 3-4 pretty radically different versions/personalities/whatever just since she came back to life. It's probably high for one char in a relatively short span of time but it's something ridiculously common for comics as a whole, especially with guys like Bendis who write basically every char in exactly the same way no matter who or what they were before his first issues.

So, like, even on places with canon cutoffs I think there's plenty of room for player interpretation

It probably doesn't matter much on places that aren't trying to hold to some kind of continuity/cutoff tbh, and if they ARE holding to continuity (in the cutoff sense) then I can't imagine anybody allowing it anyway

But I'll admit I've got kind of a bias against it from seeing a bunch of gender swap chars done really really poorly

I am hoping that after a i guess cool down period that I can convince or if not convince then at least idk pester bother and harangue @Phase-Face into doing a game

I guess if staff were pretty clear about it being first and format an X-Game and being thorough in deciding what does and doesn't fit and what can and can't be adjusted and all that then, idk, I don't think it'd necessarily turn into a complete shitshow but I'm admittedly a little skittish over just how prevailing the anti-canon anti-focus tide seems to be with what's left of the comic mu community

No, everybody being super young bugs the crap out of me too

My vote'd def be for Utopia with maybe Second Coming as the cutoff which is like

September of 2010 I think?

If Necrosha happened then you can say basically any mutant ever came back to life, and if you do that "Phoenix says no more no more Mutants" thing you can say basically any mutant EVER is playable (within, you know, limits - like I don't think Apocalypse or Selene or or Empath or etc should be valid for PCs)

So you've got a ridiculous slate of options for chars, in a place and time nobody's ever done a game, with a possibly way different feel than the X-Men usually have - like, if Fear Itsed never happens then SanFran kind of adores the X-Men

@zombiegenesis said in X-Men Game:

1: I really like the idea of "all mutants being available" in a non Year 1 setting. I'll have to look into that storyline.

Parts of it are less, like, absolutely canon and more me saying "you can extrapolate from this" and "change the ending of this"

So the nerd stuff:

There was an X-crossover called Necrosha where one of Selene's minions got ahold of the Techno-organic/Technarch virus or whatever and used it to resurrect, like, every mutant who's ever died and then sacrificed a bunch of them to become a goddess for maybe ten minutes before X-Force murdered the crap out of her. A New Mutant char (Cypher) came back to life, and it's hinted at the end that who knows how many actually went back to being dead - so you could just really easily say that, like, basically none of the ones who actually had names went back to being corpses

Second Coming's ANOTHER X-thing, and at the end of it, the bad guys put this giant energy shield/dome around SanFran and crazy powerful Sentinels start coming back in time to murder all the Mutants left since most are in that area and in particular really really really want to kill a kid named Hope. And at the very-the end of it Hope gets mimic-all-the-powers-around-her powers and kills the main bad guy and tears down the shield and then somehow new Mutants start to be born (but only like, seven until everything got derailed for AvX) - so just say "that's where our timeline splits" and, like... she just ends up with the Phoenix for a couple of minutes and kills the bad guy and tears down the shield THAT way, and then yes-more-mutantses.

So squish both of those together and tada you've got a canon game that didn't cutoff like 15 years ago, where people can do OC Mutants, and where everybody's more or less playable

Yeah I don't know why you'd restrict non-Mutants even on an X-focused or even X-only game, there are plenty of not-a-Mutant chars under the umbrella

Yeah Hope should not be playable

@arkandel said in FCs on Comic MUs:

Am I the only person here who thinks that in the context of a game like this, being a goddamn dirty mutie overrides pretty much anything regarding their sexual orientation, race, etc?

They are already freaking out about you existing at all, you abomination. They fear and hate you. What more can they do if you're also fucking the wrong gender?

Seriously anything on top of Mutant and all that means is "see? See? Didn't we tell you they're all depraved?"

@ixokai said in X-Men Utopia MUX:

I'm curious how superheros get quantified into stats. They're so... wildcard, they can do anything. I've seen some systems (Champions?) that try to quantify any sort of power into a point thing and while those are cool, even it fell short on the one game I used it on.

When it's an OC place and you're building chars with that system usually it works fine cus you're creating them with that system in mind

But with FCs, I dunno, I've never seen it work and tbh I can't really remember a game that used system stuff that really went anywhere (tho again I was gone forever)

I like traits - like, yeah, the whole "it shows you know the char well enough to place them" thing was bullshit and "well just keep making them more and more complicated and detailed that'll work" just made shit worse by running off anybody who didn't want to write three pages for a single power but traits aren't bad as an idea and I think there's a happy medium between "Can you fight Hulk? Didn't think so!" and "(detailed analysis of stepping discs as folds in space time created with zero point energy)"

@zombiegenesis said in Young Justice / Teen Titans MUX:

My initial idea was that the second gen heroes get fed up because the first gen heroes (Superman, Batman WW, etc) refuse to step down and let the second generation heroes step up

I'm pretty sure that's the justification for Infinity Inc

They also did this thing called "Combat" that basically was Street Fighter rules as drop-in for WoD.

I only really remember this because one of the first places I ever played was a Sailor Moon game using WoD systems and the Combat book.

From what I've seen in my relatively short time here the vitriol here has, like, basically no impact at all in terms of damaging MU*ing, esp when you compare to all the shit that the vitriol gets directed at

Like, I don't invite people I know RL to do stuff cus MU*s have a huge problem with abusers and corruption and shit like that, not because somebody's rude here or whatever

do a jonathan hickman god is dead mush

@shincashay said in Let's talk about TS.:

all the way through, the movie

i now badly want a 1950s beach movie oWoD game just saying

@thenomain said in Let's talk about TS.:

Whenever I see this thread pop up in my unread list, this conversation goes on in my head:

Thread: Let's talk about TS.
Voice in my head: Please god no.

It's kind of sad that the voice in my head is more sensible than I am.

does your head voice sound at all like droopy dog btw

@thenomain said in Let's talk about TS.:

@prototart said in Let's talk about TS.:

@thenomain said in Let's talk about TS.:

Whenever I see this thread pop up in my unread list, this conversation goes on in my head:

Thread: Let's talk about TS.
Voice in my head: Please god no.

It's kind of sad that the voice in my head is more sensible than I am.

does your head voice sound at all like droopy dog btw

No. Danny DeVito.