Posts made by surreality

@Auspice Same. Which is why this is funny as hell. I do, too.

...are we making the anti-FATAL? Because suddenly I feel the stirrings of a noble cause.

I think we honestly may be overthinking this, and yet. It's funny in itself and taken to a whole new dimension.

Well. We have joked since the first story that it's a weird miracle there hasn't been an orgy yet.

This is weirder. So much weirder.

I do not recommend archetypes, but... uh, if, I suggest porn archetypes. 'The Pizza Boy', 'The Sorority Sister', 'The Horny Divorcee', 'The Handyman'...

(OMG Bot, please don't hate me.)

@Auspice I, uh. We could use the system from HorrorMUX, if no one minds. It's the four basic stats and then 'make up your own +/- qualities', which... let's be real, that'd be hysterical.

@Ghost You can actually take a quirk this time that guarantees you will meet a horrible end and die.

@Tinuviel said in How to Escape the OOC Game:

It is the responsibility of the injured, I would argue, to inform others of the injury rather than to simply assume that the injuror was attacking them. What is harmless to one person can be harmful to another, and the only way we can properly adjust our behaviour is to know when we've caused harm.

Calls to mind the quote, which is apt, "When someone tells you you hurt them, you don't get to decide you didn't."

Double (may not be by the time I'm done, but whatever) because it's relevant:

If words and text-based communications could not cause actual harm, things like cyber-bullying would not exist. We know too well that they do. The term 'verbal abuse' would not exist, and unfortunately, it not only does, but it describes an occurrence that also exists.

And so on.

@Tinuviel Well, those people are dumber than a sack of hair, and if that assessment offends them, yay.

If words did not have the power to harm, the very concept of a slur would be so alien that we would not be able to comprehend it.

@Tinuviel Seconded. There are still lines that you don't cross without becoming a bad actor. You don't mock or attack someone's serious health (including mental health) issues, their (uninvolved) family, etc., and you do not make threats without legitimately behaving as a bad actor, full stop.

You may not intend to go that far at the time. You may feel provoked for some reason. Your temper may get away with you. That does not matter: you have absolutely become a bad actor at this point.

Typically, in circumstances like this, it can be made right again, but it involves openly admitting your wrong-doing and sincere attempts to make amends. Also one hell of an apology -- which, frankly, the other party need not accept, and making it doesn't absolve you from the fact that you have, yep, absolutely, become a bad actor.

@Ganymede Y'all have done great with the situation I brought to your lap, baffling as fuck as it is. Thank you.

Can confirm, they are not fucking around with this stuff.

@Ghost said in How to Escape the OOC Game:

If staff are unwilling to deal with truly abusive online behavior or if other players are regularly being mean to you, then there's no the bad actors win. The bad actors have won.

This is accurate.

Thing is, you should be bringing this to staff. Not walking away at the first sign of an issue.

@Auspice said in How to Escape the OOC Game:

But if all of your friends always agree with everything you do....chances are they aren't being honest with you.

For all that shit ultimately went sideways, this is something I always appreciated about you when we were talking regularly and whatnot, and I always tried to do the same.

It led to some explosions sometimes, which sucked, but it's worth noting? I wish more people were like that. The one person I go to about this stuff lately is very much a 'look at things from a zillion angles' thing.

@Sunny If I could quintuple upvote a post, I would.

I am super lucky to be on a game where staff keeps an eye on these issues and is ready to take action.

@Auspice I think when it gets into actual victim-shaming, ex: 'the only reason you could be upset about anything that happens on a game or in interactions with people you know from a game is because you're mentally unstable' you can officially write someone off as not having the right answer.

@peasoupling Pretty much.

@Derp I'm going to call some serious bullshit here, despite agreeing with some of what's been said.

Doing as you describe?

Means that the bad actor gets control of the game space, and has driven you our of a place where you have not done wrong, and have every right to be.

That's some bullshit right there.

ETA: When someone does actual, real wrong, no matter where or in what context, you have every right to be angry, upset, hurt, or whatever else.

The wrong people do is not limited to 'got that ewang I wanted' or 'got that fac head role I wanted' or 'said a mean thing about my character to other characters'. Some people cross major lines, in profoundly unacceptable ways, full stop.

Victim-blaming, victim-shaming (which you are absolutely doing here, man, much as I love ya), and forcing the loss on the victim of these behaviors is completely inappropriate.

@Sunny Ditto that, in full.

@Sunny I am really sorry that happened to you. Please know that if anything like that ever happens, I will always have your back.

Hell, the (unnamed) person I am beyond furious with to the point of seeing red? I know she's been messed with as well by legitimately bad actors, and while I genuinely want nothing to do with her? If something like that ever happened to her again, I would absolutely have her back, too, zero hesitation, no question about it.

@Botulism I will probably always take Doomed every time you offer it purely because I you and respect your desire to some day throw my character face first into a wood chipper, nuke her, have her eaten by kaiju, etc.

Plus, seriously, y'all, getting to write a death pose is fucking fun, ok?