Celebrities that are Dead To Us
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I ain't saying he was a bad person or anything, but living with Fred Rogers must have been SUPER FUCKING FRUSTRATING for everyone else involved because that kind of open, consistent, constant, blatant goodwill would drive me up the wall.
I need to see cracks.
I mean, I know that's my own issue, but damn. XD
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@coin Man I was just thinking that if I was fighting with my SO, like if I was mad enough to be actually fighting, and they said that shit? It would just piss me off. I mean then you hang up/walk away and get your shit together so you can be rational and productive but dang.
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@kanye-qwest said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
@coin Man I was just thinking that if I was fighting with my SO, like if I was mad enough to be actually fighting, and they said that shit? It would just piss me off. I mean then you hang up/walk away and get your shit together so you can be rational and productive but dang.
RIGHT?
Man, fuck you and your perfect fucking answer for evertything I don't need this shit I want some god damn hate sex what the fuck is wrong with you
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I remember reading this piece on Mr. Rogers in Esquire when it first came out. It is so much love.
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@dontpanda said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
@arkandel said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
@dontpanda said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
And here's the kicker: That's not even the end of the list of stories that couldn't possibly be true except it's Mr Rogers and they totally all are.
Exactly right.
There's a great twitter thread of a dude who ran into Mr Rogers in an elevator. You can read the thread here.
Beware of dusty rooms when you read it, though.
Oh my heart! cries forever
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I don't know about you but I'd watch the shit out of a sitcom of @kanye-qwest being married to Mr. Rogers.
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@arkandel said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
I don't know about you but I'd watch the shit out of a sitcom of @kanye-qwest being married to Mr. Rogers.
I too enjoyed Season One of "The Good Place".
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@mietze said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
I will admit that the only celebrity that I actually cried on reading that they’d died was Fred Rogers. By all accounts he seemed like the real deal.
Mr. Rogers and Robin Williams, but the latter was both a blend of him being a beloved childhood figure (bangarang!), followed by being a "we listened to stand-up on all my college roadtrips" hero, and the fact that I was just barely starting to crawl out of one of the worst depressions of my life when he died. Depression does stupid things to your brain and somehow, mine convinced me that it was horribly unfair that someone like me was getting better, and someone like him who had made so many millions of people happy didn't, and that it should've been the other way around. I ugly-snot-cried every night when I got home for, like, a week solid after that.
Having since discovered some of the amazing things he did -- very quietly -- for people less fortunate than him has made me slightly less embarrassed about that one, because apparently Robin Williams was also a stupidly good person. (And if any of you have evidence to the contrary, please for the love of God just shut it and let me have this one, okay??)
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Goddammit, John Lasseter.
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@theonceler said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
Goddammit, John Lasseter.
Honestly? I'm surprised but I'm not. I went to CalArts for character animation and while I didn't end up going into the field, I have a lot of former classmates who are. Animation is a hardcore boy's club and I've heard countless stories of women having to deal with harassment of all sorts.
So yeah, I hadn't heard anything specifically about John Lasseter but it fits the narrative of the animation industry that I have been hearing about for yeeeeeears.
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I mean, it could be worse, but still. Damn, Angela. Not cool. You were in "Gaslight" in 1944. What the hell. Damn.
Angela Lansbury says women must 'sometimes take blame' for sexual harassment.
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Garrison Keillor (of "The Prairie Home Companion") apparently wrote an op-ed for The Post yesterday, mocking the idea that Franken should resign from the Senate for the allegations he's facing.
And.... surprise surprise, it comes out today that Keillor was just fired from his remaining radio show gigs, after harassment allegations came to light against him. <sighs>
I think I'm just going to start assuming that any male public figure over the age of 55 or so^ is a fucking pervert.
(^Except Patrick Stewart. Don't you dare let me down, Sir PatStew.)
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@karmageddon said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
There's a world of difference between being a perv (I'd daresay most of us here are pervs) and sexually harassing people.
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@auspice I agree, although the women in the scenarios he describes probably would consider such behavior far more than perverted. My response would probably be a violent one. >.>
And, in case it's important to note for anyone not interested in clicking the link, it's a scene from the tv series Extras. Pretty sure Patrick Stewart is an upstanding guy iRL. Would be bummed out if he weren't.
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Oh yeah, true. And Extras, unlike the Takei situation, was definitely fictional. So Stewart was totally playing a scripted part. It's just hilarious to watch/hear. I've always loved that clip.
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I also love this Liam Neeson scene from Life's Too Short. I totally lost it when I first saw it and still find it so wtf lulz.
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@auspice The thing about Takei though is he was playing a part, though it wasn't scripted. He'd been playing the Dirty Grandpa on the Howard Stern show for a while - something he later said he regretted doing. Stern pushes the boundaries as he can, and in improv you aren't supposed to say no ever. You say yes and go with whatever your partner says. So when Stern asks if he's done things like this and leads him there, all he can do is be coy and agree, or ruin the bit.
Plus, I'm not saying he did or didn't do something in his personal life, no one is perfect. But unless more people came out saying he's done things, not the clips of the Stern show but actual complaints It's still wildly different than Weinstein, and the years of abuse of his power he had. I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, and if it did I'm not trying to downplay it as a bad date experience for one person.
It's just, for me anyway Takei is not a scummy person to me. I'm not excusing it, but no one is perfect and whether we like to admit it or not, at some point, we've probably all been scummy people in some form or another. For me holding him up to a different standard because he is a celebrity for possibly making a bad choice, but then also disliking him from being a celebrity because of one action is the thing about celebrity worship I really hate about how society has changed over the years. It's like we feel that we made them famous, so we have some ownership over celebrities. If they don't act how we want, or do what we want we're entitled to be scummy ourselves but at the same time look down on them because they are celebrities and should be better people because of that?
TL;DR It's going to take a lot more for Takei to be on my dead list. Also still apparently pissed off at those people who got mad at the Stranger Things / It kid for not saying hello to them.
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@karmageddon said in Celebrities that are Dead To Us:
And, in case it's important to note for anyone not interested in clicking the link, it's a scene from the tv series Extras. Pretty sure Patrick Stewart is an upstanding guy iRL. Would be bummed out if he weren't.
I realized what it was a few seconds in. Thank God, because there was immediate dread when I saw the reply.
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@karmageddon Unwilling to click on the link, or in Canada, apparently, BBC Worldwide has blocked it in my area.