I take back absolutely everything I was going to say about this place having better general behaviour than WORA, and how it was unfortunate that all this good behaviour made it difficult to tell who was better off avoided.

@Arkandel

To get all Nobody Asked You on this, methinks you're starting to protest too much.

Everyone has their own yardsticks for judging whether or not someone appears to be a player who takes care in playing well and enjoyably with others. In my experience, a desc is a very accurate 'hey guys, this is how much I care about my character and how much effort I'm gonna put into playing here' gauge. I have limited gaming time. I don't want to waste it.

Your mileage may vary. You don't have to care that other people see a short/unevocative description as a common trademark of lacklustre roleplay experiences, but it doesn't mean it hasn't held up more true than not for some.

@Gilette

Because there are people who get off on tearing apart others. 'This didn't sound heartfelt to me' somehow becomes 'I must pull apart this sham and expose it for others who don't see The Truth the way I do'.

Because the hobby is full of major malfunctions and some people lose their shit when someone who did them wrong dares to try to make right in a direction other than theirs, or brings an apology bouquet with petunias, and oh my god, Frank, I told you once in passing that I hated petunias, you're a waste of a human being.

To take the other side, most of us have had someone be breathtakingly horrible to us in this hobby. Sometimes, an apology unearths this, combines with seventeen random factors in your day, and you go off on someone because it feels good and/or feels like getting some of your own back.

If we were all perfect at making it clear when we meant 'in my opinion this is wrong' versus 'unarguably wrong', this forum would have nothing to talk about.

@Derp said in House Rules vs Rules as Written:

If you DO enshrine them into formal legalese, then please, offer some elucidation on why you think this is so important it has to apply to all people forever.

This so much. If you can't clearly answer WHY, it should never be implemented.

Staff needs to be very careful - stupidly careful - to avoid the accusations of favoritism.

Making an alt that wants to do all the things, instead of letting non-staff players handle it, is not the way to do this.

@TNP said in Star Wars: Insurgency:

Plots focused on the Rebellion will be for Rebel PCs, not Rebel FCs and others. If someone apps an OC X-Wing pilot who survived the assault on the Death Star alongside Luke, then that is what he shall be and that is what game 'history' shall be.

There's the automatic rarefied air that comes along with a FC right here in your explanation of how there's really no difference between Nameless Shlub and Luke Skywalker Who We All Know.

People want to play FCs because they are the heroes and the centers of attention, and not the masses of nobodies milling in the background to make their glamour shots happen. This is how they get played, and how they get treated, because /it's what they are/. There's no equalizing the playing field for Luke Skywalker vs. your 'OC X-Wing pilot' because they will never be the same thing, not even by your own description of them.

The people desperate to play the hero of the show are typically also the last people you want actually playing them, but that's probably a tangent for another time.

Like others, I think you are opening a very well-labelled Pandora's Box for no good reasons, but maybe you'll make it work. Best of luck.

I think essentially what this distills down to for me is giving most people a fairish shot ICly and as @Miss-Demeanor has already noted getting a one note feral trick pony back every time.

My PC: Hello, how are you? What's your name? I'm Bob. Lol, we're in a forest. This is weird, right?
Their PC: SNARL SNARL FROTH FROTH ARRRRRAWRAWRAWRAW CUTTING INSULT SMIRKY SMIRK
My PC: Cool. Catcha... later?

A few days pass.

My PC: Hello there again. Uh, are you interested in looking for wood for a fire with me?
Their PC: CUTTING INSULT SMIRKY SMIRK VEILED THREAT SNARL SNARL FROTH FROTH
My PC: Yeah.... uh. Peace.

This nails it. I tried a Delinquent alt, and this is exactly what the experience was like. If there are, in fact, characters that don't lead with FUCK OFF YOU'RE NOT WELCOME, either they're never IC, or play exclusively with their own little circle.

@TNP said in The 100: The Mush:

@Karmageddon said in The 100: The Mush:

• There seems to be a lack of friendly, welcoming PCs with whom they can interact.

Except, in my opinion, this is not the case at all.

In your opinion, this is not the case at all because Morgan is part of the cozy little group doing all the things. He has been in all, or nearly all, of the major event scenes (these same scenes almost always containing the same four or five PCs) and when he isn't cozied up with Cameron (another player who doesn't see the problem) is usually playing only with those other PCs.

It feels rather like that group is busy reassuring themselves that there's nothing wrong, to the point of a fairly ugly echo chamber.

edited to add: Despite this, whether my observations are true or accurate or not, it's a game I'm still trying to get traction on. I have issues with some things that are going on, obviously, but I also don't want to be solely on the dogpile side of things.

@faraday and others make a fair point that Staff should no more try to control asshole PCs than they should try to control friendly PC. However, there is also a game's overall health to consider. Do they want new players to stay and become part of the game? If so, there needs to be characters on the grid who do not lead with their worst behavior. Starting off can be uncertain and nervewracking for the best of us, and if your first steps on grid are greeted with FUCK OFF FUCKFACE RAR, it may be your last time on grid, too.

If there was an easy fix to this, we'd all be fat and happy on perfect games by now.

@Sunny said in Issues with SimpleMu:

Dual input windows and pretty, pretty colors?

Every spawn window in SimpleMU comes with its own input area, so it has potentially many more than a 'mere' dual input windows.

Also, 'pretty, pretty' colours is very subjective. The times I have seen what people make when given more than the sixteen ansi colours, it's looked like My First Website circa 1998 or so. Your mileage may vary, but I MU* to play a text-based roleplaying game, not to see how many colours the staff can cram on the screen at once.

@FiranSurvivor

It appears more to be Round 452 or thereabouts of Theno using a half-million words where "Sorry, I was a dick," would suffice and serve him much better.

What's really important is, is this run by the The 100 staffers, or isn't it? It's the same domain name, and they left ads themselves, elsegame, promoting it, yet someone else is advertising for it, here.

Anyone know?

@Ashen-Shugar said in The Crafting Thread:

I likely will forgive it eventually. If for no other reason than to remove that pit of acid festering in my own gut. I likely won't forget it happened... ever... but forgive I can perhaps pull off.

Reconciling it -- internally, not with him -- might be enough, too. At least, that's my own hope. My kid brother did some things following our mother's death that I'm not sure I'll ever be able to forgive, but like you, I'd like to find a way past that festering pit if for no other reason than the memory of my mom deserves more.

That might be word-quibbling over reconciliation vs. forgiveness, too. Either way, best of luck.

Dry mustard is another super-tasty addition to meatloaf. Breadcrumbs > saltines > oatmeal as far as filler/binding goes, IMHO, but oatmeal would definitely make the meatloaf toothier.

The writing for GW2 is really, really great at times. Even if you've got a favourite race that you plan to stick with, definitely check out the others for a few levels just to see what they're all about and gawk at their home cities.

@FiranSurvivor

It appears more to be Round 452 or thereabouts of Theno using a half-million words where "Sorry, I was a dick," would suffice and serve him much better.

@faraday said in Star Wars: Insurgency:

But seriously - for those who think it's a bad idea for FCs to be PCs, or to be in everyday scenes, or to be less awesome than their movie counterparts, maybe just... don't play there? Constructive criticism is one thing, but I don't get the need to rain hostile critiques down on a game just because it isn't to your tastes. Especially on their own advertisement thread.

Not so constructive: "Having FCs as PCs is a horrible idea. They don't belong in everyday scenes. They should only ever be questgivers, period, end of discussion. This game is doooomed. But hey, good luck trying the same thing that 72 other games have tried and failed at. I'll just get the popcorn and wait for the Luke TS logs."

'Hostile critiques' and 'this is not constructive' is subjective, unless someone invented a meanness metric while I wasn't looking and gave the Meanness Police the ability to hand out tickets.

Maybe they want a good Star Wars game, have seen this exact same road travelled many, many times before, and are pointing out, "Hey, this has been tried fifty times and never worked," in hopes of avoiding example number fifty-one.

In my opinion, things don't tend to improve unless people speak up when they think they see a problem, and aren't told to pipe down because it might be a little mean. I suppose your mileage varies from mine.

Edit: "A little mean" isn't what I'm trying to get at. "Not perfectly worded" is closer.

@TNP said in Star Wars: Insurgency:

Plots focused on the Rebellion will be for Rebel PCs, not Rebel FCs and others. If someone apps an OC X-Wing pilot who survived the assault on the Death Star alongside Luke, then that is what he shall be and that is what game 'history' shall be.

There's the automatic rarefied air that comes along with a FC right here in your explanation of how there's really no difference between Nameless Shlub and Luke Skywalker Who We All Know.

People want to play FCs because they are the heroes and the centers of attention, and not the masses of nobodies milling in the background to make their glamour shots happen. This is how they get played, and how they get treated, because /it's what they are/. There's no equalizing the playing field for Luke Skywalker vs. your 'OC X-Wing pilot' because they will never be the same thing, not even by your own description of them.

The people desperate to play the hero of the show are typically also the last people you want actually playing them, but that's probably a tangent for another time.

Like others, I think you are opening a very well-labelled Pandora's Box for no good reasons, but maybe you'll make it work. Best of luck.

@bored

If we replace 'FC' with the also-accurate 'massively skilled and/or overpowered character with nigh-unto limitless resources compared to everyone else on the game', it's suddenly less of a mystery why FCs never, and will never, work.

I suppose staff feel less like they're rewarding themselves or the chosen few by not calling them that, though.

I have no idea how the hell one would logic up what we consider "modern" that also includes "Lords and Ladies", because as I understand it, we're modern because we kind of, you know, evolved PAST the whole lords-and-ladies, nobility, titles mattering, etc., nonsense.

If someone ever cracked that nut, though, I bet it would be interesting.

AKA deleting comments and/or entire threads when things aren't going your way.

Why is this allowed / why is this a good thing? We already have to re-re-retell old history whenever 'this is why X is a horrible person and should be avoided' comes up, rather than point to WORA and let them figure it out on their own. It's much easier to avoid he-said she-said when, you know, one doesn't get to stir shit and then delete it all.