I disagree that these rulesets are outdated.
I also dislike the argument that these systems arent often used out of fear of players being rolled into unwanted TS.
Let me throw something out here:
- Making even attempting to use dice rolls to force a character into TS is a bannable offense no one should ever fear.
- If people are not using the social dice mechanics of hundreds of existing RPG systems to implement control of social conflict, then they would be using these systems currently. No new system is going to spontaneously make people use risk-based social mechanics.
This is about choice.
PHYSICAL skill rolls are accepted because on some level players understand that not every slap shot gets past the goalie
MENTAL skill rolls are accepted because studying is difficult, takes endurance, and players understand that not every experiment or piece of software written works the way we want it to.
SOCIAL rolls are not accepted because players want to choose how their quasi-avatars react to social situations, which lies they believe or don't, and want complete creative control over how their character responds to other players.
This is about choice and control, and that players of these games do not want to have to roleplay a social avenue that they do not wish to. They don't want their characters to believe lies unless their player chooses to, and want to base their character's opinions on social situations based on the player's judgment for their characters.
I cannot say this enough, but I believe in my heart of hearts that the problem presented here is not about finding a worthy system or mechanic, but the approach of players to these games.
- Players trying to use dice to force others to TS
- Powerhouse players with limitless sheets throwing their dice around
- My Story
For whatever reason, ranging from the reasonable to the selfish, this is about the demand to control one's character, or on some level, the player protecting themselves and their fun time against strangers who may use these dice to turn the experience into something less fun for them.
Another new and shiny system for social interaction isn't going to do shit until this issue gets addressed and some people stop approaching these games as ways to be predatory to others or try to wedge their character into being the star of their own show.