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@theonceler said in Good TV:

Holy shit, nearly all of Teen Titans Go is on Hulu.

Time to call in sick for three days!

I'm still sour they canceled the original Teen Titans cartoon for Go! No. I don't care if Go! is good.

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I thought the original was better than Go! too.

[TheOnceler]

@jaded said in Good TV:

@coin
I thought the original was better than Go! too.

Being wrong is the new black.

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@theonceler said in Good TV:

@jaded said in Good TV:

@coin
I thought the original was better than Go! too.

Being wrong is the new black.

Oh, I just thought you were trying to bring goth back.

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If it makes you feel better, the characters of Teen Titans Go! think the original is better too.

I haven't watched cartoons since I moved, due to lack of Cartoon Network, but I used to enjoy the show a few years ago.

[Arkandel]

Anyone watching Gotham (past season 2) or Krypton? Any mini reviews you want to share?

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@arkandel
Gotham post season 2 got really good I think. The last two seasons were better than how it started at least. The new season might see the debut of their version of the Joker but it is also supposed to be the last season of the show, so far things indicate it will not see a season 6 renewal.

Krypton I'm kind of meh about. Like most sci-fi/super shows it is starting slow, and I mean the first two episodes are very slow, but story wise they are taking a bit of time to get started - the actors are settling into the characters, and while some are dedicated to their parts others look bored even during scenes that require a more emotional range. And of course in typical Syfy fashion the budget will get better next season if it survives. Sometimes the show comes off as a spoof, so direction seems to be an issue.

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I got way past bored by episode 3 of Krypton. I just stopped watching.

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Yeah I do not really see it sticking around for more than 2 seasons, or a season and a half. But it might? It is a Syfy produced show and not done by an outside company.

[Arkandel]

The reason I asked about those two shows is because they seemed (at least while I was watching Gotham, not sure about Krypton which I didn't even start) to abandon the traditional protagonist and focus on the rest of the cast.

But - for me - that wasn't enough. I wanted more of a Year One feel for Bruce even if he started a bit younger, and it just felt weird seeing Gotham more or less handling themselves without Batman; isn't that the whole point, that he was needed? Nevermind the secondary point often made, that in a way he also caused the customed criminals to rise by his very existence? Because none of these things seemed to be true until season 2.

I'm also not sure how much I care about Krypton without Superman in the picture. A comparison I heard was that it was kinda like Game of Thrones in space, but that's a high bar to set, especially on a low budget.

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@arkandel said in Good TV:

The reason I asked about those two shows is because they seemed (at least while I was watching Gotham, not sure about Krypton which I didn't even start) to abandon the traditional protagonist and focus on the rest of the cast.

But - for me - that wasn't enough. I wanted more of a Year One feel for Bruce even if he started a bit younger, and it just felt weird seeing Gotham more or less handling themselves without Batman; isn't that the whole point, that he was needed? Nevermind the secondary point often made, that in a way he also caused the customed criminals to rise by his very existence? Because none of these things seemed to be true until season 2.

I'm also not sure how much I care about Krypton without Superman in the picture. A comparison I heard was that it was kinda like Game of Thrones in space, but that's a high bar to set, especially on a low budget.

I honestly didn't want any Bruce Wayne in Gotham. I wanted Gotham to be, basically, a GCPD series about them dealing with the mob and occasionally a wacky, out-of-sorts criminal that was particularly nasty (like the Ogre, which they handled horribly, but otherwise was a good example). The Wayne Murders were a good first-season arc that I would have liked but Bruce needed to go away after that. Gotham as a city needed to go downhill and the show could have used well-placed time-skips to bring in Batman during the last season, wrapping up with the beginning of the Batman era.

This all worked absolutely perfectly with no snags or problems in my head, of course.

I don't even know what they wanted to do with Krypton. Horrible idea and basically just Goyer wanting to wank off to his version of the planet and society.

One thing it did do was cast shade on the whole "perfect society" schtick Krypton was known for, though, which is a good thing. Krypton in the show is so far from utopic.

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@coin said in Good TV:

I honestly didn't want any Bruce Wayne in Gotham. I wanted Gotham to be, basically, a GCPD series about them dealing with the mob and occasionally a wacky, out-of-sorts criminal that was particularly nasty (like the Ogre, which they handled horribly, but otherwise was a good example).

The way I'd have preferred it would be to keep Bruce as a background character who, to the main cast, is just irrelevant. They shouldn't see what the audience does - that this kid is staring at the impossible odds they are facing, the deep rooted corruption and the need for something else he can't even name yet. He'd just show up in their investigations once in a while in a cameo-like fashion where he doesn't really belong but also not in a way that'd raise too many eyebrows, and then fade away again until a couple of episodes later.

But what I missed was the fact Gotham can't handle itself, that the GCPD just can't do it on their own. That's the whole damn point of Batman after all... they needed a vigilante to get rid of the mob, and once he appeared then the costumed freaks also did, each time escalating the stakes until the police even with Gordon in charge had no chance of playing catch up at all. I didn't get that vibe from the show - Gordon could do it, he was doing it.

None of this means it couldn't still be a good or great show, it'd be up to the execution, but I don't want to spend the time catching up if it didn't get better after mid-season 2 when I stopped watching.

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@arkandel said in Good TV:

@coin said in Good TV:

I honestly didn't want any Bruce Wayne in Gotham. I wanted Gotham to be, basically, a GCPD series about them dealing with the mob and occasionally a wacky, out-of-sorts criminal that was particularly nasty (like the Ogre, which they handled horribly, but otherwise was a good example).

The way I'd have preferred it would be to keep Bruce as a background character who, to the main cast, is just irrelevant. They shouldn't see what the audience does - that this kid is staring at the impossible odds they are facing, the deep rooted corruption and the need for something else he can't even name yet. He'd just show up in their investigations once in a while in a cameo-like fashion where he doesn't really belong but also not in a way that'd raise too many eyebrows, and then fade away again until a couple of episodes later.

But what I missed was the fact Gotham can't handle itself, that the GCPD just can't do it on their own. That's the whole damn point of Batman after all... they needed a vigilante to get rid of the mob, and once he appeared then the costumed freaks also did, each time escalating the stakes until the police even with Gordon in charge had no chance of playing catch up at all. I didn't get that vibe from the show - Gordon could do it, he was doing it.

None of this means it couldn't still be a good or great show, it'd be up to the execution, but I don't want to spend the time catching up if it didn't get better after mid-season 2 when I stopped watching.

None of what you want can't be present in what I said. I mean, just because the show is about the city and the GCPD doesn't mean they can't be fighting a losing battle.

The problem I have is that the writers got obsessed with the batman mythos and decided that that was way better than writing something compelling and original--so everything is sort of just derivative of what would later be Batman.

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This season of Archer is shamelessly mocking Tales of the Gold Monkey.

Having seen the original as a kid, then seeing it more recently and nearly choking to death over what a horrifically racist pile of what in the actual fuck it is, I am truly relishing this, because it absolutely deserves everything it gets and then some. (Archer doesn't pull punches on being offensive but there's stuff they probably can't even reference or mock from the original because it is that fucking bad and it was being played completely straight at the time.)

My husband saw it only as a kid, and hasn't since, so while it's funny to him, he isn't choking half to death every few minutes at the references in quite the same way.

[Aria]

Aggretsuko makes me happy. : D

That is all.

[Arkandel]

@aria said in Good TV:

Aggretsuko makes me happy. : D

Wtf is Aggretsuko?

[Aria]

@arkandel Soooooooooo, Aggretsuko is a Sanrio character (yes, as in the company that owns Hello Kitty) announced a few years ago. She is a tiny red panda that works for a financial firm, whose name is a portmanteau of Aggressive Retsuko. So named because she expresses her frustration with her work life and her co-workers by singing rage-fueled death metal karaoke. She was released in 2016, but now has an animated Netflix series that consists of 10 episodes of 15 minute shorts.

As a woman who works as an executive assistant in the marketing department of a massive financial firm with a secret penchant for punk rock, I can relate to this tiny cartoon character and find her super cute.

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@surreality I"m so behind. Are they on normal FX, or the other FX channel and what night and time so I can Tivo.

God damn I love that show. Skinny pam made me cry

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@aria

I do a rousing rendition of System of a Down's "Toxicity" sometimes when I hit the karaoke circuit.

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Roseanne canceled for the star calling a black woman an ape?

Somehow this does not surprise me in the slightest.

...well, okay. A little. I didn't expect the network to cancel the show. The comments were totally expected though.

Ah well.

Also @Aria, Aggretsuko is a good show. For some reason, the fennec reminded me of Ganymede...