Shadowrun: Modern

Jennkryst

If you code it, they will come. I have many unfair demands for it, though.

Suggesting an update of the timeline, and also making it nearer future. For the lolz.

Misadventure

What if someone wanted to use the rules, and the elements of the setting, but not keep the published history?

Thenomain

I'm currently going through when the future would be. It's looking like 100 years, far enough that the population has entirely changed and far enough that cybernetics will be plausible.

Races have changed so many times I hesitate to mention. The Tolkien collection is so very tempting, but I want the fantasy to feel fantastic. The races should be interesting but not different just for the sake of being different.

This will be one:

http://www.marecomic.com/comic/ch3-page-23/

Fungus in our flesh.

Misadventure

I think your races will need an element that places them outside of "just posthuman". Something(s) that mark them as magical, fantastical, not just a slightly different humanoid species.

Going with more time in theory would allow the newly returned species to have generated new cultures.
OR they could have found ways to link to their old cultures, either via hidden glens, shamanism and necromancy (literally, asking questions of the dead), or similar.

Jennkryst

You could also go so far as to do what Equinox did/is doing/failed to do (I haven't checked in on it in ages). Set it in the 8th world!

Thenomain

ARISE!

Kind of.

Would the idea of a pudgy or even fat Shadowrun elf break theme or setting?

This thought hit me while doing some other things, and it's an itch that I wanted to share. Thoughts?

Lithium

@Thenomain Elves can be pudgy and fat. They just by default are more charismatic. Doesn't mean they can't still have a 1 base charisma, and end up being human average, which... can be pudgy or even fat

Thenomain

@Lithium said in Shadowrun: Modern:

@Thenomain Elves can be pudgy and fat. They just by default are more charismatic. Doesn't mean they can't still have a 1 base charisma, and end up being human average, which... can be pudgy or even fat

Did you just equate weight to charisma?

Lithium

@Thenomain Yes. Because in ShadowRun, Charisma is a combination of personality, magnetism, and appearance.

Thenomain

@Lithium

So you're saying overweight people are ugly. Matter of opinion, I suppose, so fair enough.

Anyone else?

Lithium

@Thenomain No. I am not. Jesus fucking christ Theno. I am saying that the SYSTEM you are fucking ASKING about equates Charisma to be those things.

You know what, fuck you. You cannot help but be a complete douchebag anymore.

Fuck off.

Ex FaviIIa Surgo

@Lithium said in Shadowrun: Modern:

@Thenomain No. I am not. Jesus fucking christ Theno. I am saying that the SYSTEM you are fucking ASKING about equates Charisma to be those things.

You know what, fuck you. You cannot help but be a complete douchebag anymore.

Fuck off.

You did kind of insinuate that tubbies are unattractive. All that said, why are you so upset that he would accuse you of this? Do you have some investments in fat acceptance or something?

Lithium

@Ex-FaviIIa-Surgo He's been doing this shit to me for months now, insinuating I said something I did not say.

In this case, I was pointing out the game systems standards, not /my/ standards.

Just tired of his fucking shit.

Thenomain

@Lithium

What you said, pretty much, is that an overweight elf would be lower Charisma because they are overweight, because Charisma has appearance in it. The word connecting overweight to charisma is "appearance". Your words, not mine.

If you disagree, and I'd be happy for people who disagree, then don't make the connection. Is there something in the game rules that makes this connection and wasn't related? Again, I'd be happy if there was because no, Lithium, I don't want to believe that you meant what I think you said.

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I can take a purely medical view on why this might be, but it has to do with how the human mind being is hard-wired to protect the species, and not something I was going to bring up in a thread about "why doesn't Shadowrun have any fat elves", which was more of an amuse-bouche than societal commentary.

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Also, two replies were made while I was typing this and I can't see them, so if I pick at anything that was already addressed, my apologies in advance.

Lithium

@Thenomain /I/ didn't make the connection you fucking assmunch.

THE GAME DESIGNERS DID!

Thenomain

@Lithium said in Shadowrun: Modern:

@Thenomain /I/ didn't make the connection you fucking assmunch.

THE GAME DESIGNERS DID!

Can you get me a book and page number reference that links weight to Charisma? I'll check it out, and considering how right-angle you've gotten bent out of shape, however long it takes is fine with me.

Lithium

You know what. Fuck off and die Theno. I mean that.

I'm done with you.

Thenomain

@Lithium said in Shadowrun: Modern:

You know what. Fuck off and die Theno. I mean that.

I'm done with you.

Er, okay. Enjoy...whatever it was that just happened.

Kanye Qwest

Ok but no one wants to play ugly characters, or infected mushroom people (?! ?!). I mean, there will be a few edge cases who do, but at least a few of those will only want to rp the LOL LOOK HOW GROSS I AM I DRIPPED ON YOU LOL. Beyond that, it just doesn't have any sort of broad appeal.

Maybe you don't want broad appeal! IDK your life.

Thenomain

The broad appeal of Shadowrun Orks and Trolls informs me that people are okay with not being pretty pretty prince(ss)es. Hellboy. Fallout Ghouls & Supermutants (man I'd love to play a ghoul!) Vampire Nosferatus. Etc.

I suppose we have different definitions of what constitutes "broad appeal", or what needs to be done to get there. No matter.

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edit: One of the things I like about playing Changeling online are the number of people not only willing but eager to play freaks and geeks, in the circus sense. all you strange, wonderful RPers.