General Video Game Thread

Sunny · Dec 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

Having played it, I understand why people who game for different reasons to me would hate it, but it's my favorite. ALSO, the personality thing (where your verbal voice acted lines change based on the personality choices you make in the dialogue long term) and the friend/rival system were REALLY really really well done and I wish we would see a return to that for the next one.

@Derp
Uh. It's pretty well explained in game. Nothing was confusing or weird. It told you exactly what was going on.

eta: to be fair, I read codex entries? but yeah, there was zero confusion. "mages revolted, templars reacted, war broke out" is pretty easy to follow. Everything relevant to the narrative is visible from square 1.

Testament · Dec 2, 2020, 9:36 PM

I question the narrative direction that DA2 took between in regards to the transition from Act 2 to 3.

But this debate has been trodded down to death. So I have a hard time liking the narrative(because I do like the narrative), yet hating Jennifer Helper's writing.

Ganymede · Dec 2, 2020, 9:36 PM

DA2 is also my favorite.

But Fenris?

Sunny · Dec 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

@Ganymede

MageHawke and Fenris-friend (instead of Fenris-rival) story is really, really good. By the end he's laughing, cracking jokes with Varric, and so on. I understand why you might not personally enjoy it, but I feel no shame for your disgust.

Testament · Dec 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

Narrative aside, I think my largest issue with DA2 was how dumbed down the combat was. Not that I have a problem with button mashing combat(I don't, I love Streets of Rage 4 on my Switch), but that's not what I expect out of a Dragon Age game. Where Origins was chunky and tactical in that Baldur's Gate(oh my god I love that game so much why can't Baldur's Gate 3 come out of alpha already), and Inquisition tried really hard to be some kind of combination of the two and not exactly hitting the mark(while also not totally missing it either).

Ganymede · Dec 2, 2020, 9:45 PM

@Sunny

I was MageHawke and FenrisFriend. And I don’t suppose I am the be-all and end-all of taste.

It is nice to not be alone in the “I like DA2” camp.

Derp · Dec 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

@Testament said in General Video Game Thread:

Narrative aside, I think my largest issue with DA2 was how dumbed down the combat was. Not that I have a problem with button mashing combat(I don't, I love Streets of Rage 4 on my Switch), but that's not what I expect out of a Dragon Age game. Where Origins was chunky and tactical in that Baldur's Gate(oh my god I love that game so much why can't Baldur's Gate 3 come out of alpha already), and Inquisition tried really hard to be some kind of combination of the two and not exactly hitting the mark(while also not totally missing it either).

The combat in DA:2 being different than the other two actually has something of a plausible explanation in that it's just Varric telling the story, and we still don't know if we got the real story.

ETA: That is, it plays like an over the top action game and not a straight-up tactical game like the other two because it's Varric telling an over-the-top action-based version of the story.

Sunny · Dec 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

I honestly really preferred the more active combat style of DA2 over Origins, except that there just wasn't enough of it. I could've dealt with about twice as many encounters and been pretty happy.

Derp · Dec 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

@Sunny said in General Video Game Thread:

I honestly really preferred the more active combat style of DA2 over Origins, except that there just wasn't enough of it. I could've dealt with about twice as many encounters and been pretty happy.

I dunno, I thought Inquisition split the baby pretty well there. It's been my favorite combat game to date. Though I guess the DA:2 Rogue did somewhat really shine.

Sunny · Dec 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

@Derp

lol thus why I completely left DA:I out of the comparison. DA:I is to date my favorite game's combat.

Derp · Dec 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

@Sunny said in General Video Game Thread:

@Derp

lol thus why I completely left DA:I out of the comparison. DA:I is to date my favorite game's combat.

Woops, misread. My bad!

Sunny · Dec 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

@Derp

okay this is the last post for a while.

It's okay, my post totally wasn't clear about it. We were talking about all three and then I stopped to make a comparison between two of the three things. Presuming I also included the third unspoken is not a bad take.

Tori · Dec 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

DA2 was my favorite also, though I never managed to finish Inquisition admittedly. I just finished Greedfall and I'm torn between playing it again (aaaaah so good!) or rounding back to DA2 - I've never done Mage and it sounds like I should!

Derp · Dec 3, 2020, 12:01 AM

@Tori said in General Video Game Thread:

DA2 was my favorite also, though I never managed to finish Inquisition admittedly. I just finished Greedfall and I'm torn between playing it again (aaaaah so good!) or rounding back to DA2 - I've never done Mage and it sounds like I should!

Switch these for me. I swear I played Greedfall for like three days and was no closer to a plot point than when I started.

Rucket · Dec 3, 2020, 1:34 AM

A part of me wonders what an Obsidian DA2 would have been like.

Since every game BioWare made and Obsidian made a follow-up, Obsidian made a better game.

Knights of the Old Republic 2 > Knights of the Old Republic
Neverwinter Nights 2 > Neverwinter Nights

Hell the trend even followed with Bethesda since New Vegas > Fallout 3.

Then again, I'm an Obsidian fanboy.

Ganymede · Dec 3, 2020, 12:37 AM

@Derp said in General Video Game Thread:

I swear I played Greedfall for like three days and was no closer to a plot point than when I started.

Greedfall was what I wanted DA:I to be, except I got DA:I instead.

Derp · Dec 3, 2020, 12:48 AM

@Ganymede said in General Video Game Thread:

@Derp said in General Video Game Thread:

I swear I played Greedfall for like three days and was no closer to a plot point than when I started.

Greedfall was what I wanted DA:I to be, except I got DA:I instead.

I mean, some of it was cool?

That fight at the docks was fun. But I found the combat to be kind of clunky and not as smooth or intuitive as I would like it to be, the companions were all kind of rigid, and I just couldn't figure out what the story was supposed to be. I got to the point where you

***Spoilers Duh***

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and was just -- completely lost because I apparently somehow missed something important somewhere that explains why that matters like, at all.

It probably doesn't help that I started playing it right after the new FF7 so my expectations were -- high. But I don't think it holds a candle to DA:I.

Rucket · Dec 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

I wanted to like Greedfall.

I wanted to really like it but a lot of the characters just fell so flat to me and the dialogue was rough to get through sometimes.

tek · Dec 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

If anyone wants to play Squadrons with me, hit me up

Tori · Dec 3, 2020, 1:34 AM

@Rucket Man I loved KOTOR2. I replayed it not long ago with added content or something and loved it more.