General Video Game Thread
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@Thenomain Yeah, BL2 is Troika/Activision joint.
Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
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@Ghost said in General Video Game Thread:
@bored Some friends and I were saying this recently. Bioware used to be THE go-to for RPG video games with depth. EA kinda ruined that for Bioware. Now the age of Dragon Age and Mass Effect are over, and it's open season for some company to be the new go-to.
Yeah absolutely. In this context I was particularly referencing how BioWare essentially defined the 'companion romance' trope in modern games. Baldur's Gate 2 (admittedly these are iffy by modern standards), NWN, DA/ME, etc. And they've often been ahead of the curve for something so mainstream. KotoR had the first LGBT character in the Star Wars EU, for instance. BioWare didn't abandon it under their new management, but they lost a lot of the excellent writing, which Obsidian is carrying on.
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@Ghost said in General Video Game Thread:
@Thenomain Yeah, BL2 is Troika/Activision joint.
Goddamnit. This just pushed it to “shut up and take my money”. Too many exciting games out there!
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@bored said in General Video Game Thread:
@Ghost said in General Video Game Thread:
@bored Some friends and I were saying this recently. Bioware used to be THE go-to for RPG video games with depth. EA kinda ruined that for Bioware. Now the age of Dragon Age and Mass Effect are over, and it's open season for some company to be the new go-to.
Yeah absolutely. In this context I was particularly referencing how BioWare essentially defined the 'companion romance' trope in modern games. Baldur's Gate 2 (admittedly these are iffy by modern standards), NWN, DA/ME, etc. And they've often been ahead of the curve for something so mainstream. KotoR had the first LGBT character in the Star Wars EU, for instance. BioWare didn't abandon it under their new management, but they lost a lot of the excellent writing, which Obsidian is carrying on.
I get ya. I know CDPR has taken some flak about an in-game ad regarding trans but not making trans a playable option. No news yet as to whether or not they made it an option, but CP2077 is allegedly going to have mixed romance options.
Vampire Bloodlines 2 is reportedly shooting for woke in terms of representation:
“The character creator, which players get to use twice – once at the start to define your human aspects and then a second time later in the game to flesh out your vampire – goes way beyond basic male and female models. Body type, gender pronouns, employment history and fashion can all be toyed with for a very modular build.”
Not sure yet what relationships will be like because the game seems to want to focus on blood, flirtation, and seduction (and less romance) to keep that "creature of darkness" feel.
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Player-created main character RPGs have always been a great place for the industry to find an 'in' here, I think. We can be honest that The Witcher series would have struggled to find the funding, audience, and success it did with a black female lead. But creating your own? It doesn't face that obstalce. Hilariously, it's actually more economical in many cases to make everyone bisexual, because then you don't need different interactions (and voice lines) dependent on the MC's gender (edit: or maybe at the most, you might need to record multiple pronouns, but those are... literally some of the shortest words possible). Trans characters should be pretty easy in this model too, and fundamentally, it's not forcing anything on the player. You can play what you want.
I thought the CDPR stuff was encouraging when it broke the first time- I guess we'll see how it goes, but it does show that it wouldn't be hard for them to do it.
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@RDC said in General Video Game Thread:
Didn't CDPR also like. Send a private investigator to threaten a youtuber. I feel like that's the main thing they take flak for, but people want to MAKE the main flak they're taking about not having trans options in character creation. (Although seriously, games, start allowing trans AND nonbinary options.)
Another thing I liked about Outer Worlds: your appearance options are not particularly limited by whether you choose male/female. My character is female but has a stylish stubble beard.
A thing I didn't like about Outer Worlds: my character would not be female if there had been a 'neither' option.
Wrong company. CDPR has nothing but treating the consumer as correctly as possible. Its 2K games you are thinking of https://www.pcgamer.com/2k-confirms-sending-private-investigators-to-borderlands-streamers-house/
ETA: The only games I have been playing for the last two years are Indie titles because all the triple AAA stuff coming iut recently has been monetized bullshit. The Outer Worlds and Cyberpunk are the only AAA games I have been waiting for and I am so stoked for both of them. I havent gotten my hands on outer worlds yet but all the reviews are glorious so woooo
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@RDC Side note, CDPR are very thankful to their consumers for allowing them the opportunity to grow as large as they have. During E3 and Gamescon this year they hid secret messages in their trailers that led to stashed webpages with secret messages of declarations of love and well wishes to their community. https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/byrbs2/secret_message_from_the_cd_projekt_red/
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Finished my Call of Duty gameplay for review.
Simply put - the online community is about what you'd expect and if you've played COD you know what the multiplayer is about. Not much has changed.
The single-player campaign is about 4.5 hours worth of gameplay. I found that this story was better than the last few COD games - they had some fairly good characterization.
The graphics for the game are better in the cut scenes than during gameplay. I think they overfilled the environments with clutter for the shooting arenas that each stage takes place in for them to have worked on better than average quality texturing - some of the locations do have a nice real-world feel to them unless you look at the environment too long. Luckily the game fixes this by not giving you a lot of time to focus on things because you are encouraged to keep moving by your NPC companions or the unending bad guy rush.
The gunplay is pretty standard - most of the guns have a good feel to them, particularly the shotguns. The music compliments the gameplay but you could do without. It is nothing spectacular and is mostly lost in the shooting and active dialogue, of which there is a lot.
Essentially, if you've played one you've played them all. I would not recommend the game at the price point it is at currently, it really does just feel like your typical war shooter that was copy-paste from the last. Wait for it to get a sale that takes about $20 off.
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Really damn late to the party, but Hollow Knight is the shit. Thank you, that will be all.
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I am:
- drinking cider.
- playing The Outer Worlds.
Let me describe where I am right now in The Outer Worlds.
This game is Bioshock + Borderlands as applied with an RPG element from the inventors of Fallout. I don't mean this is literally what it is, but even if some other people made it this is exactly what it feels like.
There is a bit in Mass Effect 2 where you have to make an agonizing moral decision (having to do with free will). There's the part in Bioshock where the big plot-twist hits you alongside the head. The Outer Worlds is doing this in its introductory scenario.
I stopped on purpose because that's how hard the decision is for me. I'm playing the typical goodie-two-shoes and yeah, no, you can't.
You. Can't.
Play this game over a month for one dollar.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-game-pass/pc-games
Or buy it outright from Microsoft.
Why are you still reading this? Go!
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@Thenomain A review I read mentioned its single-player campaign is too short. Do you think that's the case?
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30-35 hours of total gameplay to complete the main quest and all side quests. For a sixty dollar game in this genre that's pretty damn short. -
I was all on board for Outer Worlds until I read this. That is crazy short, and idgaf about any multiplayer elements. Maybe I'll play it on the game pass instead.
ETA: I just finished my first run of Hollow Knight ($15) with over 64 hours on the clock and a lot of significant stuff left to do with only 103% completion. To think I'd get half that time out of a full-price game is gross. I'm still piling hours into various Skyrim and Fallout 4 saves, though. Is there enough choice and variation to support multiple plays?
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@Thenomain said in General Video Game Thread:
I stopped on purpose because that's how hard the decision is for me. I'm playing the typical goodie-two-shoes and yeah, no, you can't.
You. Can't.You can, sort of, but it requires some slick talking.
I personally am not super impressed with Outer Worlds. I think the almost constant zany comedy doesn't give the abject horror of corporate slavery enough (really any) time to breathe.
Gameplay is solid, though, and I dig the character creation.
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@gryphter
In my opinion, Outer Worlds is not really a game that begs to be played through a second time, unless you want to run around with different companions or try different gameplay styles. Even the main story, arguably, is not that good. It is pretty derivative. I kept getting the sense that some game story elements and design choices were made to purposefully thumb their nose at Bethesda, which okay that's fine I guess.I did not get that desire to see the worlds of the game again as I did with something like Witcher 3. And since the game is so grossly mis-priced I doubt I'll be interested in any DLC to follow up with.
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@RDC said in General Video Game Thread:
I'm gonna go out on a moral limb here and say: the slick-talking goodie-two-shoes answer early on is the morally blackest. It's basically selling people who escaped slavery back into slavery. 16-hour-workday with non-consecutive 8-hour breaks before going back to work, 7 days a week every week until you die of overwork slavery. People who have played it probably guess how I decided.
Oh, trust me, I like the leftist bent (we should be commiebuddies). That's exactly my problem with it, though. I think the potential for awakening class consciousness is undermined by the fact that it's two steps away from being Borderlands 4.
As I recall, the revolutionary leader says she's going to plant a garden inside the cannery. I assumed that meant revolution was going to take place when everyone got back.
ETA: I also waver between demsoc and socdem on a daily basis, so maybe that explains it, but I still want to be leftiebuddies. :<
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