DC Game Wanted
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@Arkandel I don't think it comes up all that often. The Legion aren't really Earth based. Most supers game don't have space open to the extent that any cosmic characters is allowed. They're generally okay if they have a reason to be on Earth but there's not usually going to be plots run in another part of the galaxy.
But yes, it is definitely a bunch of people who just can't compromise on the exact version of comic-book gaming. Or the comic book in general. The one side usually refuses to acknowledge that the other ever existed in canon.
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@Arkandel said in DC Game Wanted:
I mean it might just be the MSB effect but some of the posts in similar threads have have been like "if the Flash is Barry Allen I hate it and I won't play there full stop" and whatnot.
I think this mindset may play into most of the games based on existent comic properties tending to go broad and let differing versions coexist wherever possible(can't have show Barry and comics Barry, but Barry, Wally, Jay Garrick, and so forth can all be 'the Flash' if that's how players want it) nowadays, whether multi-theme or not.
I can't really speak to it being better or worse than a more rigid adherence to a specific canon, specific versions, etc, but I generally don't mind it.
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@Phase-Face said in DC Game Wanted:
I think this mindset may play into most of the games based on existent comic properties tending to go broad and let differing versions coexist wherever possible(can't have show Barry and comics Barry, but Barry, Wally, Jay Garrick, and so forth can all be 'the Flash' if that's how players want it) nowadays, whether multi-theme or not.
You forgot Bart, Bart was Flash for a bit as well, and John Fox.
To alter the topic I would really like a game that did something along the lines of what DC did when they did the Tangent Comics.
Basically the names of the characters were the same but everything else was changed, for example Superman was a powerful psionic and Flash was a girl with light based powers, and Batman was the spirit of a knight, etc. -
If Barry Allen isn't Flash, I'm not playing! >.>
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I'd like a DC game that isn't 95% LGBTQ superhero shipping or run by wildly insane and controlling staff.
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@Nein said in DC Game Wanted:
I'd like a DC game that isn't 95% LGBTQ superhero shipping or run by wildly insane and controlling staff.
I have no issues with LGBTQ chars or bending FCs that way... for the most part.
...I have issues when people bully whoever is playing said FC into being gay, to suit their personal ships.
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@Auspice Agreed on that point. My main problem is when shipping itself is 95% of the game. Gets boring kind of fast.
Edit: I've had characters try to use their superpowers to non-consensually turn mine gay for them, and they didn't seem to understand why this was wrong. So I hear you.
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@Nein said in DC Game Wanted:
@Auspice Agreed on that point. My main problem is when shipping itself is 95% of the game. Gets boring kind of fast.
Edit: I've had characters try to use their superpowers to non-consensually turn mine gay for them, and they didn't seem to understand why this was wrong. So I hear you.
jfc, yeah. For serious.
Really, just, any bullying of any kind to try to get someone to play a FC to 'their' desires is problematic. Knew a chick, about a decade back, who would bully people playing Gambit into either being with her (Mary Sue-ish) OC or... into leaving the game so her friend could play him. And generally, Staff wouldn't intervene.
So it's a problem of the people who do that and yeah, insane (or conflict-avoidant) staff.
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I don't care if it's an LGBTQ issue or anything else; if you play Batman, play him like he is in the comics timeline the game is using. Else play your own character.
No, I don't care if you think he should be driving a yellow Batmobile or wield a katana either.
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A. MEN.
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@Arkandel said in DC Game Wanted:
I don't care if it's an LGBTQ issue or anything else; if you play Batman, play him like he is in the comics timeline the game is using. Else play your own character.
No, I don't care if you think he should be driving a yellow Batmobile or wield a katana either.
I feel the same way, but I'll allow for people to be a little flexible or ambiguous if they want. I may cringe, but I'm not gonna stop in and tell them NO. Which is why I get so frustrated when I'm playing a character as-written and someone flips their shit because they TOTES want that char to be <some other way>.
I am personally rather against fanfic of the 'shipping' variety. Seeing an author's characters warped in a way so different than they were written (the 'OMG Name and Name are OTP! Author just wrote them as hating each other because they were scared people wouldn't understand!').
The idea of someone doing that to characters I've written just makes me uncomfortable. Like... how could someone claim to love something I'd written and then fundamentally change it so?
Comic characters, at least, do have a wide range of 'iterations' to choose from, but I think if they've been very clearly hetero or very clearly gay (hello, Northstar)... it's not really quite right to suddenly change them. You've got chars who have been straight in some iterations, gay in others, etc... sure, go for it. But others? Noooot so much.
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@Auspice I admit I'm not as inflexible here when it comes to things that don't seem to be going too far - after all it's a game. So if your Spider-man decides to hook up with Captain Marvel instead of MJ (or whoever) because there was a great Captain Marvel player around then I don't mind.
But, say, don't make him start using venomous webs because he's bonded to the symbiote again who's become a serial killer; don't make him switch minds with Doctor Ock who's pretending to be Peter Parker.
Those are just bad ideas.
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I have no issue with different relationships than happened in the comics... because, again so damn many of them.
But some things just make my head kinda hurt.
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As long as whatever someone is doing different is something that seems plausible for the character-as-written, I won't squawk. I realize that "seems plausible" is inherently a subjective criterion, but that's all I got.
F'rex, if someone playing Teenage/College Age Spidey wanted to hook up with Captain Marvel, I wouldn't even blink; being surrounded by a rotating cast of hotties who are inexplicably stuck on this nerdy photographer is practically a core element of Spider-Man as a character. I can easily rationalize this as being one of the periodic story arcs where he gets it on with the Black Cat or Silver Sable or whoever before eventually drifting back into MJ's orbit.
On the other hand, if someone's playing Grown-Up Married For X Years Spidey ... throw me a frickin' bone, you know? Put something in to make it at least semi-plausible. Maybe MJ died in a building collapse and CM is his way of coping. Maybe she went off to Europe to do modelling in Europe and he's guilty about it but keeps it up anyway. Maybe he sold his happy marriage to the Devil to protect his secret identity. It's comic-book reality, so it doesn't have to be Shakespeare, but I need something to hang my suspension of disbelief on. Otherwise why play Grown Up Married Spidey at all?
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@Arkandel said in DC Game Wanted:
don't make him switch minds with Doctor Ock who's pretending to be Peter Parker.
Those are just bad ideas.
I take back every bad thing I have ever thought about you.
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@ThatGuyThere I sometimes think Marvel hates Spider-man. I can't explain it.
They clone and replace him, then they kill him and replace him, in the Ultimate universe they kill him and replace him, they thought-switch and replace him.
Like, is there something we should know guys?
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@Arkandel
Lets not forget they had him trade his one lasting relationship to the devil for his Aunt's life.
I am not sure about Marvel as a whole but I know Joey Q( Mr. I drew really bad comics) has mentioned in interviews he does not understand why fans love Spiderman.