Dec 18, 2019, 4:04 AM
@Auspice It might be worth Memories, but is it worth... ThE cEnSoRsHiP?!?
Good or New Movies Review
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@Auspice It might be worth Memories, but is it worth... ThE cEnSoRsHiP?!?
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I’m looking forward to it. After Les Mis, Hooper can do no wrong.
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@Arkandel said in Good or New Movies Review:
I don't know what Once Upon A Time In Hollywood was about ('Hollywood', probably) but I know I loved it and I couldn't stop watching until the end.
***=Also I spent the whole movie waiting to see if Brad Pitt's character would kick as much ass as it was hinted in the trailer***
click to showIt's about the Charles Manson cult people murders.
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@Jennkryst Yes.
He should've worn a better dance belt.
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If you don't wanna wait, Jennifer Hudson performing Memories on The Voice finale.
The amount of emotion she brings to the song is perfect.
Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.
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I’ll take Anne Hathaway as Fantine, sorry.
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@Auspice said in Good or New Movies Review:
If you don't wanna wait, Jennifer Hudson performing Memories on The Voice finale.
The amount of emotion she brings to the song is perfect.
I just finished rewatching Dreamgirls half an hour ago.
Jennifer Hudson's voice gives me literal goosebumps, and I legitimately get a little angry at how talented she is. She is so good.
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Boston Globe
My eyes are burning. Oh God, my eyes.
Collider
Can you make a movie so bad that the Academy takes back your Best Director Oscar? Asking for Tom Hooper.
The Beat
Cats is the worst thing to happen to cats since dogs.
Hollywood Reporter
Cat-astrophic.
LA Times
"Cats” is both a horror and an endurance test.
Slashfilm
There is a thin line between idiocy and genius, and Cats pukes a hairball on it and rubs its ass all over it.
Variety
Nine may not be enough lives for some of the stars to live down their involvement in this poorly conceived and executed adaptation of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s hit musical.
Little White Lies
I felt the light inside me slowly fading.
The Playlist
Once Tom Hooper's 110 minutes of Cats are over, theater is dead. And we unchosen ones are left, tragically, to continue living.
New York Times
It's amazing to see what Adult Swim can accomplish with a $100 million budget. I never knew Tom Hooper was capable of making a surrealist nightmare that would rival Jodorowsky, that could baffle David Lynch, that would prompt even the dark god Cthulhu to emit an impressed eldritch shriek of “nehehehehehe”
Vulture
To assess Cats as good or bad feels like the entirely wrong axis on which to see it. It is, with all affection, a monstrosity.
The Daily Telegraph
Glad to report that Cats is everything you’d hoped for and more: a mesmerisingly ugly fiasco that makes you feel like your brain is being eaten by a parasite. A viewing experience so stressful that it honestly brought on a migraine....and on and on and on...
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Would love to know if they liked the original production.
Still, I’m probably going to enjoy it.
I like Cats.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede said in Good or New Movies Review:
Would love to know if they liked the original production.
Still, I’m probably going to enjoy it.
I like Cats.
I read another article on how it's being panned and they said a lot of it comes down to, a) poor marketing, b) that Cats has been, for a long while now, a joke in pop culture.
People don't want to admit they like even the broadway show, so it forms a sort of... kneejerk of HA HA NO I DON'T LIKE THAT GARBAGE ISN'T IT GARBAGE WE ALL THINK SO YEAH TOTALLY as people refuse to listen to it, etc...
It was surreal at first, but the soundtrack is def. solid.
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@Auspice said in Good or New Movies Review:
I read another article on how it's being panned and they said a lot of it comes down to, a) poor marketing, b) that Cats has been, for a long while now, a joke in pop culture.
I don’t see why it is a joke. It is one of the highest grossing and longest running shows in Broadway history.
I’m not saying it’s the best musical production ever, but it was so popular for so long for a reason. It is first and foremost a dance production; then it is a showcase of music. Story? Not really deep or much.
I’ll wait and see to evaluate, but I fully expected it to be panned by modern critics who probably wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between Sondheim and Fosse.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede said in Good or New Movies Review:
I don’t see why it is a joke. It is one of the highest grossing and longest running shows in Broadway history.
And yet, it is. I don't agree with it, but it gets mocked regularly and these days, a lot of people seem afraid to admit they like it.
Could blame furry culture. Could blame the 'lack' of story (I mean it was inspired by a book of poems, c'mon). But either way, that's the truth of it.
If you go into the movie expecting dance and song same as the Broadway show, you'll be fine. My theory is that a lot of people went in hoping for a full story (classic movie-going experience) with some songs added in.
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@Auspice said in Good or New Movies Review:
My theory is that a lot of people went in hoping for a full story (classic movie-going experience) with some songs added in.
Probably the same people that went to Sweeney Todd and were surprised to find Johnny Depp singing.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede said in Good or New Movies Review:
@Auspice said in Good or New Movies Review:
My theory is that a lot of people went in hoping for a full story (classic movie-going experience) with some songs added in.
Probably the same people that went to Sweeney Todd and were surprised to find Johnny Depp singing.
My theory, especially for the critics, is that the more popular it is the more kitsch it must be. Ergo, the critical hate relationship of commercially successful artist Thomas Kinkade (the guy did graduate Art Center College of Design with a masters, someone thought he was good enough to get in and good enough to give him a masters in his field of study).
All critics agreeing to dislike Cats in movie format seems kitsch/mainstream to me in the very manor they are pretending to be rebellious against the establishment. It just looks silly these days.
I'm just a surge protector doing my job, sir.
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@Auspice said in Good or New Movies Review:
@Aria said in Good or New Movies Review:
still better than Twilight
Yep!
And I will freely admit to having a soft spot for Cats. It was the first musical I ever saw on Broadway when I was a little kid and, at least at the time, the actors would go out of their way to physically interact with children in the crowd during various points when they're passing through the aisles. The dancing is wonderful. The songs are memorable. And the plot is definitely a bunch of anthropomorphic cat people having a dance off for the right to take a UFO to cat heaven.
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@Lotherio said in Good or New Movies Review:
My theory, especially for the critics, is that the more popular it is the more kitsch it must be.
The critics couldn't find enough tissues to jerk the Mouse off with when Avengers: Endgame was released. Or Frozen II.
While I don't expect the critics to possess Musical Lore 5, knowing the "plot" of Cats and how it came about should be common knowledge to them. I have not seen the movie yet but every criticism I have seen has been along the lines of: (1) what the fuck am I watching; (2) why is it so fantastically flamboyant; and (3) omg hooper sux.
It is hard to take any of these critics seriously at all if they don't understand that over-the-top dance numbers and special effects is the damn point to it all. ALW, for all his flaws, really pushed musical theater hard into the "modern era," with sticking roller-skating into a production about a child's trains (basically a predecessor to Toy Story). Whereas Les Miserables is about showstoppers and angst, Cats is all about what may be referred to as "kitsch to the extreme and then set on fire*.
No offense intended, but it is supposed to be so lit that gay people be like "damn dat flaming gaaaaaay."
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I remember a time when everyone who was into musical theater at all loved Memories because it's such a damn fine song.
Now it's like this scrabble to find the most obscure song from a lesser-known show.
In short: the hipster disease has infected musical theater and any critics engaging in it.
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@Auspice said in Good or New Movies Review:
the hipster disease has infected musical theater and any critics engaging in it
Don't get me wrong, I plan to see Cats and enjoy it, damn the critics. Its what @Auspice is hinting at here, its hipster to be hipster. Cats has been so popular, that the 'real artsy critics' must have to dislike it simply because its popular more so than a real critique, or you know, and be dramatic enough in the review to compete with the other critics in some dramatic rhetorical agreement on dislike for the film version. I dare say being dramatic as a critic just to garner support from ad dollars to justify being a douche is sort of mainstream critic culture.
Just like Endgame, love it or lump it, I'm okay that nerd culture is floating to the top (the one critique mentions Cthulhu), but I'm getting over that too. I want my enjoyment of nerdy things (Star Wars, King Arthur, Flash Gordon, Al Qadim setting unsupported since 2e) to be more me enjoying it and not mainstream but I'm not going to critique any that go too mainstream.
Like you point out @Ganymede , no one should be surprised by what happens in Cats in the film version, as a lot of the criticism was leaning towards. I mean literally, you'd have had to be asleep for the past number of decades to not know what Cats is and what its about.