Good TV
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@surreality said in Good TV:
Admittedly, this is more or less the same schtick we see on MU*s a lot -- it's more or less the equivalent of the 'end of the world' plot.
My next vampire alt will be nicknamed 'The Shredder'.
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@surreality said in Good TV:
@Coin @Ganymede Admittedly, this is more or less the same schtick we see on MU*s a lot -- it's more or less the equivalent of the 'end of the world' plot.
It's not the same to reuse a plot for a roleplaying game than it is to use the same exact gimmick across three franchises.
It's literally "we burn these cities to the ground to fulfill some stupid cycle of burning cities to the ground because that's what we're here for because apparently cities have expiration dates that we decide".
Like, it is VERY SPECIFIC.
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It's literally "we burn these cities to the ground to fulfill some stupid cycle of burning cities to the ground because that's what we're here for because apparently cities have expiration dates that we decide".
"The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished."
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It's literally "we burn these cities to the ground to fulfill some stupid cycle of burning cities to the ground because that's what we're here for because apparently cities have expiration dates that we decide".
"The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished."
Yeah, I mean, I get that it's a compelling fucking story beat, but COME ON MAN, at least let a decade pass before you blatantly use it again. It's been less than five years since Arrow bashed our heads in with that shit, and it was already super obvious they were ripping off Batman Begins.
It's just... bleh. I liked it, but still.
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At least The Hand had a reason to raze New York. In fact, razing NYC wasn't even their goal, just a byproduct of getting what they are after.
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@tragedyjones said in Good TV:
At least The Hand had a reason to raze New York. In fact, razing NYC wasn't even their goal, just a byproduct of getting what they are after.
Except alexandra goes on this spiel about how you get used to seeing cities fall and how they were behind all the big ones like Pompeii. So it's still the same story beat.
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@surreality Jessica Jones S2 is filming right now. (Iron Fist S2 is also announced as happening.)
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Does Game of Thrones still qualify as "good TV" in Season 7?
inb4 it's not TV, it's HBO
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@Lain It's by far my favorite TV show this season so as far as I'm concerned - yes. But it's okay for people to like different things.
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@Roz I was really impressed with Jessica Jones.
First, it was good to see a female hero story.
Second, the whole 'but since she's a girl she must be without flaw and a paragon of all the virtues ever' sort of routine that sometimes gets applied to female heroes was out the window.
To me, at least, that showed the struggle behind actually being heroic really well, and it has more of an impact to me than some other attempts I've seen over the years.
(I also think it should be required viewing for anybody who deeply engages in any of the player agency discussions sometimes, on all sides of the argument. Not particularly kidding about that, either. It's a great resource for folks confronting all the crazy powers in a variety of games that are going around and how they can linger; I thought it was a pretty good depiction of how traumatic it is to have the kind of control we so often take for granted in our lives taken away.)
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@Arkandel It's not Black Sails, but I suppose it will do.
<ducks and runs away very fast>
(Sorry, had to. I'm gonna miss the shit out of that show. I hope some day they do something similarish, like a prequel or something. There was brief talk of such a thing, but I don't think it got anywhere. Though three cheers for any series that has a target ending goal and doesn't just putter along past it, and instead ends the way they mean it to, when they mean it to.)
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@surreality said in Good TV:
@Arkandel It's not Black Sails, but I suppose it will do.
<ducks and runs away very fast>
(Sorry, had to. I'm gonna miss the shit out of that show. I hope some day they do something similarish, like a prequel or something. There was brief talk of such a thing, but I don't think it got anywhere. Though three cheers for any series that has a target ending goal and doesn't just putter along past it, and instead ends the way they mean it to, when they mean it to.)
Honestly, I hope they do Treasure Island and bring back the acto for Long-John with a musty fucking grey beard. Since Black Sails is literally a historically-influenced prequel of Treasure Island.
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@Coin I'd love to see them do a prequel surrounding... damn, I am forgetting his name, but the first pirate that they all constantly refer to as the origin of 'the black spot', and the initial foundation of the pirates and their culture in Nassau, from roughly a half-generation or so before.
Edit: Or the continuing adventures of Jack, Anne, and Mary. I want that one so damned much.
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@surreality said in Good TV:
@Coin I'd love to see them do a prequel surrounding... damn, I am forgetting his name, but the first pirate that they all constantly refer to as the origin of 'the black spot', and the initial foundation of the pirates and their culture in Nassau, from roughly a half-generation or so before.
I'm kind of meh about a prequel-of-a-prequel, though. give me a long-running brutal version of Treasure Island where everyone's an asshole, please.
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Honestly, if the History Channel hadn't gotten to Vikings first, that's what I'd want Starz to tackle next for their historical fiction narratives. They did spectacular work with both Spartacus and Black Sails.
I would also love for them to do some East Asian or even Indian stuff. That would be fucking fantastic. Or some of the South American stuff would be great. Honestly, they could use a little diversity, especially since their flagship show is now Ash vs. Evil Dead, which is great, but very slapstick and a half-hour show.
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Speaking of prequels, did you hear they're doing one for Game of Thrones? George Martin is involved, but hopefully it won't depend on him to write stuff.
I'm hoping for Dunk and Egg but it could be anything. Freed from the shackles (and advantages) of the books it could go either way... but they really want to keep that massive GoT cash cow goin'.
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Speaking of prequels, did you hear they're doing one for Game of Thrones? George Martin is involved, but hopefully it won't depend on him to write stuff.
I'm hoping for Dunk and Egg but it could be anything. Freed from the shackles (and advantages) of the books it could go either way... but they really want to keep that massive GoT cash cow goin'.
I heard they've got like four spin-offs in the works, yeah.
I haven't actually (and probably won't ever) read A Song of Ice and Fire.
I can guarantee you none of the spin-offs will have the same viewership and massive success of Game of Thrones, but they'll probably do well enough to justify at least two seasons of each.
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@Coin I think GoT's success was just a perfect storm. Great books (YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH) , casting that just worked from day one (I can't imagine a better choice for Tyrion), producers who care a great deal about the material and stayed the course without burning out or losing their shit, money thrown liberally at the project which shows in the production values, and timing.
Can they recreate it? Who knows, but I do know D&D aren't going to be involved in the spinoffs since they said so.
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@Coin I think GoT's success was just a perfect storm. Great books (YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH) , casting that just worked from day one (I can't imagine a better choice for Tyrion), producers who care a great deal about the material and stayed the course without burning out or losing their shit, money thrown liberally at the project which shows in the production values, and timing.
Can they recreate it? Who knows, but I do know D&D aren't going to be involved in the spinoffs since they said so.
I don't actually know if the books are shit or great or whatever. I just have no desire to read a bunch of doorstoppers when I already know the broadstrokes of the story and so many of the details, given how many other books I want to read.
Also I read some pages and his prose style makes me wanna sleep.
I've never read Harry Potter either. Nor will I ever, probably.