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[Arkandel]

Good news everyone!

This July was the hottest month in recorded history.

No wait, that's not good news.

[PuppyBreath]

My debit card was compromised and someone spent $70 at a gas station and overdrew my account, which was another $35. So now I don't have enough money for my minimum credit card payment. WHY CAN'T I JUST CATCH A FUCKING BREAK I SWEAR TO GOD.

I'm going to go live alone in the mountains as an angry luddite who only uses fucking cash.

[Tyche]

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

Good news everyone!

This July was the hottest month in recorded history.

No wait, that's not good news.

I could have sworn it was July 1936. For the US that is. But they keep changing the data though.

[insomniac7809]

@Tyche said in RL Anger:

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

Good news everyone!

This July was the hottest month in recorded history.

No wait, that's not good news.

I could have sworn it was July 1936. For the US that is. But they keep changing the data though.

The 1936 heat wave lost its spot (highest average monthly temperature across the continental USA) in July 2012. Your information appears to be seven years out of date.

[Tyche]

@insomniac7809 said in RL Anger:

@Tyche said in RL Anger:

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

Good news everyone!

This July was the hottest month in recorded history.

No wait, that's not good news.

I could have sworn it was July 1936. For the US that is. But they keep changing the data though.

The 1936 heat wave lost its spot (highest average monthly temperature across the continental USA) in July 2012. Your information appears to be seven years out of date.

I wish they would make up their mind

[Arkandel]

@Tyche said in RL Anger:

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

Good news everyone!

This July was the hottest month in recorded history.

No wait, that's not good news.

I could have sworn it was July 1936. For the US that is. But they keep changing the data though.

1. Which part of "global data" are you pretending to be having issues with?
2. Come on man, you're trying to troll me?

[insomniac7809]

@Arkandel But he's backed up by Tucker Carloson's propaganda rag citing a blogger. A climate blogger.

[Arkandel]

@insomniac7809 Yes, that's the trolling part.

[The Sands]

@Derp said in RL Anger:

@Ghost said in RL Anger:

...when the person in front of you in line at the coffee house orders 9 different drinks during morning rush.

That person is almost assuredly an intern or a secretary.

Which means they are possibly already in Hell.

[Thenomain]

@Tyche said in RL Anger:

@insomniac7809 said in RL Anger:

@Tyche said in RL Anger:

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

Good news everyone!

This July was the hottest month in recorded history.

No wait, that's not good news.

I could have sworn it was July 1936. For the US that is. But they keep changing the data though.

The 1936 heat wave lost its spot (highest average monthly temperature across the continental USA) in July 2012. Your information appears to be seven years out of date.

I wish they would make up their mind

I don't think this is trolling. I mean, I think it's trying to be because, y'know, @Tyche, but in this case it's just ignorance on how modeling works.

I'm far less concerned about "is this the hottest month on record" than I am "why is it that no matter how much I shake and push out my pee, I always manage to dribble a little down my leg when I'm done".

If you want a model to concern yourself with, here:

https://xkcd.com/1732/

In the long term, who the fuck cares if this is the hottest July on record?

Enjoy your existential terror.

[surreality]

@Thenomain Somewhere, amongst the beach stuff, there is a guide book to various things you find in the area where we go shell hunting on vacation.

It has a section showing a handful of maps from about the 1920s to present, with some future projections -- every 20 or so years, iirc.

At a glance, most of Florida will be retiring when any hypothetical kids I may have had do.

[surreality]

I will not murder my father in his sleep.

(Consider this written on the proverbial blackboard 1,000,000x.)

[mietze]

There is a guy walking around downtown in the city that my kids' high school is in (next town over from ours), with a giant swastika and holocaust denial slogans on his signs. We do have a big problem with bigots in the northern (well and southern too really) seattle eastside burbs, usually not visible in the well heeled areas because they prefer to be more genteel about it (unless you mention native american treaty rights, quickest way to get someone to go off on a racist tirade in WA state).

I have seen this guy around usually passing out leaflets, not with a sign. Now that he is more visible, people are expressing "shock" in the neighborhood facebook page, and I guess the new talking point is "it is okay to show nazi symbols and be a holocaust denier because, you know, WWII was fought to preserve free speech!"

It's been a really shitty 2 weeks, it is going to be another very stressful 2 weeks ahead of me, and honestly I just realized today in my reaction to this stupid ass bigot that I am probably the most depressed but functional I have ever been in my life, which is saying a lot.

[Thenomain]

@mietze said in RL Anger:

"it is okay to show nazi symbols and be a holocaust denier because, you know, WWII was fought to preserve free speech!"

Here, for your community facebook group:

[Rinel]

@mietze said in RL Anger:

"it is okay legal to show nazi symbols and be a holocaust denier because, you know, WWII was fought to preserve free speech even though WWII was fought against Nazis to eliminate geopolitical threats, jurisprudence suggests that it is less dangerous to allow people the right to voice highly objectionable political opinions, including Naziism, than it is to grant the government a foothold into the regulation of political speech"

Fixed

[mietze]

The we fought WWII fo free speech, therefore someone being a nazi is patriotic was a real surprise to me. I'm not really sure why, since sadly the whole whatabout freespeech stuff sadly often does involve bigots claiming to be champions these days but it was a new one on me.

[Wretched]

@mietze I'm sure I linked the paradox of tolerance comic before.

[Ganymede]

@mietze

"Persecution for the expression of opinions seems to me perfectly logical. If you have no doubt of your premises or your power, and want a certain result with all your heart, you naturally express your wishes in law, and sweep away all opposition. To allow opposition by speech seems to indicate that you think the speech impotent, as when a man says that he has squared the circle, or that you do not care wholeheartedly for the result, or that you doubt either your power or your premises. But when men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas -- that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out. That, at any rate, is the theory of our Constitution. It is an experiment, as all life is an experiment. Every year, if not every day, we have to wager our salvation upon some prophecy based upon imperfect knowledge. While that experiment is part of our system, I think that we should be eternally vigilant against attempts to check the expression of opinions that we loathe and believe to be fraught with death, unless they so imminently threaten immediate interference with the lawful and pressing purposes of the law that an immediate check is required to save the country. I wholly disagree with the argument of the Government that the First Amendment left the common law as to seditious libel in force. History seems to me against the notion. I had conceived that the United States, through many years, had shown its repentance for the Sedition Act of 1798, by repaying fines that it imposed. Only the emergency that makes it immediately dangerous to leave the correction of evil counsels to time warrants making any exception to the sweeping command, "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech." Of course, I am speaking only of expressions of opinion and exhortations, which were all that were uttered here, but I regret that I cannot put into more impressive words my belief that, in their conviction upon this indictment, the defendants were deprived of their rights under the Constitution of the United States."

-- Holmes, J., Abrams v. United States, 250 U.S. 616, 630-631 (1919).

This eloquent opinion turns 100 years old in November, and should be emblazoned in the minds of anyone who wants to have a serious discussion on the freedom of speech.

[Derp]

@Ganymede said in RL Anger:

Only the emergency that makes it immediately dangerous to leave the correction of evil counsels to time warrants making any exception to the sweeping command, "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech

Just picking this part out, lest people think that he was calling for a free-for-all. I've seen this sentence get overlooked countless times.

ETA: But of course now we have the Brandenburg and Hess nonsense so that would be pretty moot anyway. You gotta get real specific before they step in. Sadly.

[Auspice]

I had to resurface this thread because this hurts my heart.