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@greenflashlight said in RL Anger:
a person suddenly gains superhuman strength, becomes imperious to pain, and then dies for absolutely no reason
Without context, I'd probably chalk that up to a PCP overdose.
The only psychiatric or psychological assessment of 'excited delirium' I've been able to find is a statement by a police psychologist that says it's bullshit brainwashed into the police by Taser International.
Delirious mania, a similarly named but apparently unrelated condition of similarly dubious medical understanding (with journaled evidence dating back to 1849), does have some proponents in the psychiatric and psychological communities - more as strange combination of symptoms (delirium and mania) than a disorder in itself... you know, in case one googled it and got those two conflated.
He/Him
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@greenflashlight said in RL Anger:
Now take a wild guess who is most likely to claim a person died of excited delirium rather than, oh, I don't know, a two hundred pound man kneeling on the back of the decedent's neck for nine minutes.
I'd chuckle if it weren't so tragically absurd.
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Without context, I'd probably chalk that up to a PCP overdose.
Often it is associated with drug use, commonly cocaine. It's a commonly-observed phenomenon in EMS circles. We're trained on it in our paramedic curriculum.
Some science: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3088378/
At its core, it is just an umbrella for describing things we know exist. Drugs can make people strong and crazy, and war has plenty of documented examples of people performing heroic feats thanks to adrenaline. We know that both drugs and flight-or-fight can lock out the logic centers of your brain and make you act out and be impervious to reasoning.
Unfortunately, excited delirium is commonly abused as an excuse to justify police brutality and deaths due to improper restraint, and that's some freaking inexcusably shameful BS.
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keeping this vague, but:
i don't care who you are. don't fuck with the weird kids. not on my watch.
i'm the weird kid who no one protected. i survived, in spite of the world's best efforts. i'm going to make sure that none of the young people that i interact with, professionally or otherwise, ever have cause to say that no one ever stood up for them.
not today.
not ever.
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Often it is associated with drug use, commonly cocaine. It's a commonly-observed phenomenon in EMS circles. We're trained on it in our paramedic curriculum.
Some science: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3088378/
At its core, it is just an umbrella for describing things we know exist. Drugs can make people strong and crazy, and war has plenty of documented examples of people performing heroic feats thanks to adrenaline. We know that both drugs and flight-or-fight can lock out the logic centers of your brain and make you act out and be impervious to reasoning.
Can confirm that it's a thing and it's mostly drug related. Had a guy take something and, when me and a partner checked on him, he was wide eyed and going on that he was Jesus, while swinging his arms around, almost hitting others and starting a fight with them. So we pulled him aside to isolate him and he started fighting us. He overpowered both of us at the same time, telling us that as Jesus he forgave us for what we did but he needed to go and purge the sinners. In the end, it took 8 officers to get him restrained and he ended up with a broken shoulder blade from it all. An hour later, he was completely understandable and apologizing to all of us.
Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
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Can confirm that it's a thing and it's mostly drug related.
I don't think there's much debate in scientific circles about whether it's "a thing" - the debate is whether it's a separate thing deserving of its own name ("excited delirium") vs. something that is already covered by the symptoms of other conditions (drug use, psychosis, etc.) That is a question for the researchers, and why it's not in the DSM.
None of that even remotely excuses those bully cops falsely trying to use it as a shield for their abuses. It's appalling how often it happens. (ETA: Not referring to your story there, just to be clear.)
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Dumb scanner with a dumb printer. I'm afraid to say anything bad about it OUT LOUD like it'll actually hear me and bog up my orders more.
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My brother is married. His wife's alright, but her mother is possibly the worst human being I have ever met. Let's call her Hannah.
The first time I met her, I was pulled out of a lunch break in order to just 'pop out to meet her real quick' while at work. Just my brother's spouse and her mother. We made some small talk because I had nothing in common with her menthol-smelling boomerness, but it was nothing outside the pale for meeting someone for the first time under frazzled circumstances. I excused myself to return to work because I knew I was running behind on a task, and I hear her say to my brother's wife, "Oh, well you know the LastNameHeres. They're all a bit slow. It must run in the family." She and my brother's wife laughed.
My brother is on the spectrum. I'm not, but that isn't really the issue, here. At the time, I pretended not to hear and just fumed about it because I was in a shitty retail job and needed to keep working to not get fired so I could get my 7 bucks an hour while murdering my body. Luckily, this woman never turns up anywhere. No family functions, no gatherings, so I just let it slide off of my back. Today, my mom called to set up our first 'post-covid' family gathering, and off-handedly mentioned that she'd be inviting Hannah.
It has to have been over ten years since that first exchange, but the stars aligned and a wire just snapped and I was sick of keeping it to myself. So I shared the story with my mom.
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"Oh. Well, you can sit at opposite ends of the table." My mom suggested.
Flabbergasted, I repeated, "Mom. The very first time I met her, she called Brothersname slow and implied the same about me."
"Well... you know, you don't have to take that in." My mother said, blindsided and trying to placate.
"No, I know," I snapped, "But I'm anxious and depressed and it takes real fucking effort for me to get out of the house, and I'm not doing it for someone who called us slow."
"That doesn't mean you have to take it to heart." My mom suggested.
I hung up.
I feel like the worst person ever right now because my mom has been pinning a lot of hope on this idyllic picnic where we all get together and things are normal, but I'm not breaking bread with that woman voluntarily. If that's the sort of things she says in public, with me in fucking earshot, then I'm quite certain she's probably using slurs in private. I don't need her ugliness in my life.
...So yeah. Angry. Had to vent it somewhere, because I'm not great at sticking up for myself all the time. Go fuck yourself, Hannah.
Edit: Thankfully, my mom called me back, and pivoted to a plan that didn't involve Hannah. Yay.
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Family stuff is so rough sometimes. I always had a pretty okayish relationship with my mom. At one point I considered her my best friend. All of that was kind of shattered in 2016 (YOU KNOW WHY), and I've never been able to look at her the same. I've distanced myself a lot.
I haven't forgiven her for xmas 2020, which I've vented about already, but we had a decent interaction at the beginning of May after I asked for help with moving my horse.
Last week she asked for my help, but I had to decline. She wanted me to meet the farrier and hold her horses while he did their feet because she couldn't be there. The last time I did this for her, though, this farrier started ranting about how covid was a hoax and masks were stupid, blah, blah. So I told her that I wasn't comfortable with that farrier. I also pointed out that I would have found a new one.
At which point she called me Hitlerish because I would have fired someone because I didn't agree with his 'opinion'. Never mind that she also doesn't agree with that 'opinion'.
My middle sister's baby shower was today and I didn't go in large part to avoid my mom. Fortunately my sister is awesome and understanding and I'll hang out with her sometime soon instead.
But jesus fucking christ, I can't wait to cut off my parents entirely.
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@puppybreath said in RL Anger:
Family stuff is so rough sometimes. I always had a pretty okayish relationship with my mom. At one point I considered her my best friend. All of that was kind of shattered in 2016 (YOU KNOW WHY), and I've never been able to look at her the same. I've distanced myself a lot.
I haven't forgiven her for xmas 2020, which I've vented about already, but we had a decent interaction at the beginning of May after I asked for help with moving my horse.
Last week she asked for my help, but I had to decline. She wanted me to meet the farrier and hold her horses while he did their feet because she couldn't be there. The last time I did this for her, though, this farrier started ranting about how covid was a hoax and masks were stupid, blah, blah. So I told her that I wasn't comfortable with that farrier. I also pointed out that I would have found a new one.
At which point she called me Hitlerish because I would have fired someone because I didn't agree with his 'opinion'. Never mind that she also doesn't agree with that 'opinion'.
My middle sister's baby shower was today and I didn't go in large part to avoid my mom. Fortunately my sister is awesome and understanding and I'll hang out with her sometime soon instead.
But jesus fucking christ, I can't wait to cut off my parents entirely.
2016 broke a lot of families. America's Cold (or Lukewarm) Civil War.
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@puppybreath said in RL Anger:
At which point she called me Hitlerish because I would have fired someone because I didn't agree with his 'opinion'.
Remember when religious fundamentalists told kids to burn Nirvana CDs because of their music?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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@puppybreath said in RL Anger:
At which point she called me Hitlerish because I would have fired someone because I didn't agree with his 'opinion'.
Remember when religious fundamentalists told kids to burn Nirvana CDs because of their music?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Did they stop?
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There are times that while I may dislike aspects of my parents for particular things they do(mostly my dad for being brilliant and egotistical at the same time never living up to his expectations and making him look bad), the one thing I'm so damn grateful for is at least we're all aligned in world view and ideologies. My parents are divorced, but being the child of a pair of Vietnam war protestors and union workers has paid off in that respect at least.
My brother is a completely different story.
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My family is full of born-again Christians and a not-insignificant number of Trump supporters.
Then my mother gets super offended by the fact that I get along better with my in-laws.
I dunno, Mom. Maybe it's because my in-laws have never literally told me that they don't have to take my feelings into consideration when it comes to how they treat me or show my husband any respect in our own house?
So mysterious. What could it possibly be that makes me like them better? Clearly my mother-in-law is a rude bitch despite never having done anything to you literally ever.
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It's times like these I'm glad the only family I have is my wife and our cats.
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The fact that my state sill has not legalized recreational pot use. You know, it's really something when every single state around you has legalized it and is likely just raking in the tax revenue to the point where state politicians from neighboring states is mocking your state leadership for 'thanking them' for keeping pot sales illegal.
At least my city has decriminalized it, even if it literally means nothing to state and federal law.
Honestly, I don't know if pot would help reduce my tinnitus slightly, but really, I'm willing to try just about anything. Also, not for nothing, but I do miss it.
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@testament said in RL Anger:
The fact that my state sill has not legalized recreational pot use. You know, it's really something when every single state around you has legalized it and is likely just raking in the tax revenue to the point where state politicians from neighboring states is mocking your state leadership for 'thanking them' for keeping pot sales illegal.
At least my city has decriminalized it, even if it literally means nothing to state and federal law.
Honestly, I don't know if pot would help reduce my tinnitus slightly, but really, I'm willing to try just about anything. Also, not for nothing, but I do miss it.
And then, there's Oregon...
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@puppybreath said in RL Anger:
At which point she called me Hitlerish because I would have fired someone because I didn't agree with his 'opinion'.
Remember when religious fundamentalists told kids to burn Nirvana CDs because of their music?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Did they stop?
They turned their wrath to Marilyn Manson.
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
