Great TV
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Just Survive Somehow was the best The Walking Dead episode I remember seeing in forever. Carol is badass. That whole episode kept going from strength to strength.
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@Arkandel said:
Just Survive Somehow was the best The Walking Dead episode I remember seeing in forever. Carol is badass. That whole episode kept going from strength to strength.
Fuck the walking dead. Fuck it with something sharp, rusty, and covered in zombie brains.
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@Cobaltasaurus I feel there is a story there.
What happened?- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@Arkandel said:
@Cobaltasaurus I feel there is a story there.
What happened?It's spoilery but it amounts to: They killed off my favorite character, an episode after turning my OTHER favorite character from 'Badass' to 'damsel that needs Daryl to protect her'. I could have lived with the death of said favorite character if a] they hadn't devalued the strength of my other favorite at the same time, and b] killed said favorite character in a manner that was highly implausible.
(How do you go from having a completely holstered gun to being able to shoot someone in the head, before anyone has a chance to react, at all? In a blink?)
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SPOILER SPOILER ALERT - THE WALKING DEAD - SPOILERS
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Two quick reviews.
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The Magicians. Based on a pretty good urban fantasy novel series - I really liked the pilot. It was fast paced (way more than the books) and it worked on most levels. I want to see how it's followed up though. If you want your modern-day mage fix or inspiration to play one on a MU*, this is a good place to start.
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The Shannara Chronicles. I mean it... looks really good, there's blue screens everywhere filled with pretty CGI in post-production and they picked a lot of hot actresses and actors for the eye-candy factor... but that's as far as MTV (!) managed to ride the GoT wave to ratings as far as I'm concerned.
GoT succeeded because it has (and shows) some depth, there are warring factions, different points of view, a lot of moral gray. Here there is nothing, there are evil demons and roguish young heroes rising to fight them. Also the casting wasn't nearly as successful, other than Manu Bennett and John Rhys-Davies these folks can't act. Like, at all. Maybe it'll pick up I guess.
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I liked The Magicians too. I even got the books because of it.
I am going to be poking at Shannara tonight.
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The CW is going to be so pissed. MTV apparently has beaten them to a supernatural/fantasy creature of some kind, leaving them with one less 'My Boyfriend is a... <insert supernatural creature here>' show to run with. (No, really, we've had vampires, witches, and even aliens, and I bet I'm missing a few in there.)
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality said:
The CW is going to be so pissed. MTV apparently has beaten them to a supernatural/fantasy creature of some kind, leaving them with one less 'My Boyfriend is a... <insert supernatural creature here>' show to run with. (No, really, we've had vampires, witches, and even aliens, and I bet I'm missing a few in there.)
Naw. The CW will wait to see if Shannara works out and then just grab some other YA fantasy model to cash in.
Hell, I'll write for them.
DO YOU HEAR ME CW? I WILL WRITE NOVELS FOR YOU TO BASE CHEESY TELEVISION ON. Just pay me.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin I am reasonably certain a handful of reasonably creative people could freeform RP up plots and melodrama in a modern fantasy setting and the CW would pick it up at this point.
It could not possibly come out worse than Star-Crossed and I really mean it.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality said:
@Coin I am reasonably certain a handful of reasonably creative people could freeform RP up plots and melodrama in a modern fantasy setting and the CW would pick it up at this point.
It could not possibly come out worse than Star-Crossed and I really mean it.
Star-Crossed wasn't even that bad. When it did socio-political plotlines, it did them pretty well, I thought.
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The new Preacher TV show will be 'very different than the comics'. I don't know how I feel about that.
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@Arkandel said:
The new Preacher TV show will be 'very different than the comics'. I don't know how I feel about that.
I know how I feel! I feel like I hope the show is good regardless of whether it follows the comic book or not.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin Of course I want the show to be good. But if it's good, yet it's not <X>, then call it something else.
Obviously when there's a change in medium there need to be - often significant - changes to make it work for the new format. But there's Game of Thrones and there's "I, Robot".
Having said that, Garth Ennis seems involved so it bears a decent chance of being decent, and I like the casting choices.
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@Arkandel said:
@Coin Of course I want the show to be good. But if it's good, yet it's not <X>, then call it something else.
I guess I'm just not a purist. I think a story can be told in different ways, or different stories can be told. Also, maybe I'm just super tired of having to worry about whether or not something lives up to its name. It's not a legacy, man; it's a comic book. I can't bring myself to care very much.
I think the only time I got really angry about something like this was when SyFy put Earthsea and white-washed it so bad it was basically Bleachsea. Well, and Avatar: The Last Airbender, but that was less anger and more just... sigh.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said:
@Arkandel said:
@Coin Of course I want the show to be good. But if it's good, yet it's not <X>, then call it something else.
I guess I'm just not a purist. I think a story can be told in different ways, or different stories can be told. Also, maybe I'm just super tired of having to worry about whether or not something lives up to its name. It's not a legacy, man; it's a comic book. I can't bring myself to care very much.
I don't know that that's really fair. There's a big difference between being a purist and feeling like an adaptation should follow the general core of its source material. Purists are generally the ones who are complaining that an adaptation doesn't follow every beat and plot point of the source material. You say that a story can be told in different ways, but I think the point is when it's a different story altogether.
I'm not much of a purist: I actually enjoy that sense of adaptation and how the story can be better told for screen. I think Game of Thrones has had some really fascinating adaptational changes, some of which I think improved upon the original. (They tend to put known characters together instead of introducing new sideline characters, such as having Shae serve as Sansa's maid instead of the practically-nobody in the books, or introducing that brilliant note of tension with having Arya serve as Tywin's cupbearer. It keeps the characters we care about interacting. On the flipside, there are some changes I disagree strongly with, but those are usually about scenes or plots that I'd object to in any medium, a la 'how many new rape scenes can we introduce to this show.')
On the flipflipside, I haven't been able to bring myself to watch the new Lucifer show because it looks so wildly removed to anything the comic was about. I'm not talking about plots as much as I'm talking about sort of core character beats and themes. I could be totally wrong and it's just bad marketing, but eh.
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Right. And being good excuses many things. Being bad but very loyal to the material excuses little.
However take I, Robot for instance; the original novel (well, collection of stories) is one of my all-time favorite Asimov works, and he's one of my all-time favorite authors. I wasn't expecting the movie to follow anything in those stories because they aren't that cinematic to begin with, so I went in with zero expectations in terms of how close the plot complied to anything.
But that wasn't what was violated, it was what the books were about. Asimov's world is magnificent in how unexpected turns and twists based on a set of inviolable rules - in this case, the Laws of Robotics - can turn into major or even deadly problems which beg to be solved. And his underlying mandate all through his works is that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent; the idea, essentially, that intellect and planning aren't merely equal to force, they are superior to it. As for robots in particular, much of Asimov's entire body of works was about dispelling what he coined the Frankenstein Complex, the idea that intelligent machines would want to destroy their makers.
Then the movie came out where the Laws of Robotics were violated and the protagonist was blowing shit up to stop the evil robots.
I mean, come on.
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Hopefully it'll be great. Over in Dead Celebrities...
@Miss-Demeanor said:
And Tim Curry. Please someone stay with Mr. Curry. We nearly lost him once already!
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@Coin, got both good and bad news.
http://tvline.com/2015/10/09/banshee-cancelled-final-season-premiere-date/
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@Arkandel said:
@Coin, got both good and bad news.
http://tvline.com/2015/10/09/banshee-cancelled-final-season-premiere-date/
Eh.
I prefer that series end when they are meant to and when the creators want them to and feel they can end them.
Otherwise you end up with the back 6 seasons of Supernatural, for example, instead of the nicely wrapped 5 seasons of Breaking Bad and Justified.
