May 14, 2016, 1:13 AM
Anyone who tells you that a game about teenagers isn't run by a specific clique is a liar.
And you can generally find at least one staff alt in the middle of the ruling clique.
The 100: The Mush
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Anyone who tells you that a game about teenagers isn't run by a specific clique is a liar.
And you can generally find at least one staff alt in the middle of the ruling clique.
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If there were only a game in recent history where the staff funneled all plots through their characters...
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@Admiral said in The 100: The Mush:
Anyone who tells you that a game about teenagers isn't run by a specific clique is a liar.
I guess I'm a liar, then. I've played on games about teenagers that weren't run by specific cliques.
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@lordbelh said in The 100: The Mush:
@Admiral said in The 100: The Mush:
Anyone who tells you that a game about teenagers isn't run by a specific clique is a liar.
I guess I'm a liar, then. I've played on games about teenagers that weren't run by specific cliques.
Me too, and I'm not talking about this game, either.
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This is the same power couple that ran the 5th World game FWIW. Take it how you will.
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@Admiral Yup, we did run The Fifth World. Happy to have gotten a chance to RP with those players and their characters. Sorry that our life situation forced us to close the place down.
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Yeah, they didn't hide it. I had a lot of fun on 5W while it was going strong.
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@lordbelh said in The 100: The Mush:
@Admiral said in The 100: The Mush:
Anyone who tells you that a game about teenagers isn't run by a specific clique is a liar.
I guess I'm a liar, then. I've played on games about teenagers that weren't run by specific cliques.
I am also a liar!
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An interesting place, but the name is wrong.
Should be called 'It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia MUSH' because that's what everything devolves into. Who can yell the loudest, who is plowing who, and 'the Crew' doing everything with everyone else being Artemis or Rickety Cricket.
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@BobGoblin Who's 'the crew'? I was picking around the wiki because I've heard rumor that, like 5W, the plot revolved around staff-bits. I'd like to do some research. I know some people that are considering playing there and I'd like to give them a more informed opinion.
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From what I've been able to tell. If you're a hot girl you're good to go. So pick a hot Played By cause that'll carry you far. Don't try to do anything that doesn't involve worshiping at the altar of the hot girls and most important, remember that the hot girls are always right.
Aside from that; the RP isn't bad. It really feels 5W to me as well. Basically imo the same game but in a different setting. A good setting, but one nonetheless. I won't even really blame staff for the situation and things are very new but whoever said the stuff about cliques was not far off at all. Cliques naturally form on MU's, this setting basically insists on it happening.
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@BobGoblin said in The 100: The Mush:
From what I've been able to tell. If you're a hot girl you're good to go. So pick a hot Played By cause that'll carry you far. Don't try to do anything that doesn't involve worshiping at the altar of the hot girls and most important, remember that the hot girls are always right.
Umm. I... am not sure how to interpret that.
Being not a hot girl and someone who doesn't worship the hot girls and all. And I try to do a lot and half of it seems to work out. Kinda.
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I've got a friend who plays there and they've confirmed that yes, the headstaffer's alt has been at the center of every single 'plot' and has been the main actor in them all. Just like 5W I'd imagine.
The wife runs the scenes, the husband stars in them.
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I think all in all its very important for a game to put the non-staff players in the "starring" role. When staffer chars are the starring role in the plots, as well as the furthering of plot, it's very hard to feel like the other players aren't anything more than supporting cast in a story the staff want to play for themselves. 5W had a bit of an issue with that. General consensus I've received from a number of 5W players and maybe 2-3 players @ 100, I guess 4 now per Admiral, is that this is kind of standard stuff for the staff in question.
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[deleted because it really belonged in the Hog Pit once the inevitable thread about this game starts]
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Staff mentioned on the Public channel that they want to avoid seeming cliquish, too, which is funny in that not funny way. It would be easier to believe that they want to run the game for the players if their own characters weren't the stars in everything. It's pretty disappointing for a game that otherwise seems to have really good people.
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I'm not going to contest that my PC, Grey, has been central to many, or even most, of the plots on the game so far. Wouldn't be any point, he has been. He's a big, loud guy. I hope people haven't been giving him extra leeway in following his lead because I'm Staff. But, it's something we're working on, with a couple of plots in the works that don't involve him at all. I try to ensure that he is never the sole star of anything, and I never want him to take a role that cannot also be filled by a non-Staff PC or hasn't already previously be held by a non-Staff PC. If I'm failing in that, all I can do is try to do better in the future.
As for the Fifth World, since @Ghost has brought it up twice now, NONE of the characters @GirlCalledBlu or myself played were central to the plot in any way. One of my characters led two military missions, both were small and minor. Other characters led more and larger. Plot was funneled through other characters... including his.
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@Seraphim73 said in The 100: The Mush:
As for the Fifth World, since @Ghost has brought it up twice now, NONE of the characters @GirlCalledBlu or myself played were central to the plot in any way. One of my characters led two military missions, both were small and minor. Other characters led more and larger. Plot was funneled through other characters... including his.
I'll just let you know that at least 10+ 5W players I know are making that face right now, @Seraphim73
I'm not baggin' on your new game or anything, but there's a general consensus of many of the people in the neighborhood who commented plenty often on how all of the major houses and house decisions were funneled thru staff PCs, Staff NPCs, and the vast majority of PC created houses felt as if they got very little love and influence via RP due to the core houses of your creation taking the forefront. So, by all means, say "Well, were my chars are ACCIDENTALLY central to the plots on 100 because that's just how I roleplay them", but that's what happened on 5W as well
So either you're completely right and the people pointing out this trend are just blissfully, hopelessly ignorant to the truth, or this is just another case of being accidentally central and influential to the plots on your own game?
Come on, man.
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As to note, an incomplete list of plots that @Seraphim73 or @GirlCalledBlu chars were not central to, in any way, despite the plots being centered around their PCs/NPCs
- Marriage of Prince of Royal House to staff NPC
- Death of King and Prince's sadness/political war campaign
- multiple war campaigns led by heads of household who were staff NPCs, including war campaigns led/commandeered by staff PCs
- multiple heir/house power structure marriages between your two CHARS
- "Enemy" NPC central to plot played by staff who players often complained to me they couldn't get any real information out of until staff decided to push the plot along?
God, don't mean to double post and I'd have to go back to the wiki to gather a more complete list, but a statement like "NONE of our NPCs/PCs were central to the plots" is about as innacurate a statement as possible, or about as likely inaccurate as your own PCs on this game (as other players are pointing out independent of my own statements) are central to plots by accident?
So don't wax like I'm butthurt or that no one believes these things to be true, man. Just give the spotlight to your players and stop focusing the game on yourselves and things should be fine, but you SHOULD be aware that people notice it. It's a real thing whether you believe it or not.I'm mentioning this as a service to your players before you get Hog Pitted.
Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
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@Ghost said in The 100: The Mush:
multiple heir/house power structure marriages between your two CHARS
ROFL. Omg. I wasn't going to respond because honestly... anonymous ire totally never chaps my ass...
But, this...
- Ellinor/Nikomachos was a niece of the King (to which there were dozens) and son of the former Knight Commander who was stripped of his title due to going against the King, and had absolutely no power;
- Devon/Victor was the widow of a dead heir and the bonehead nephew of a head of house;
- Lionel/Jeremy were house knights and had no political impact;
- Letha/Drake were two entertainers who also had zero political impact.
So, I say... come again?
Say what you want about how we used Staff NPCs to funnel plot to characters, because I'm pretty sure people are like "Dude, I think most games do that, isn't that what Staff NPCs are for?" But...
Come on, dude. Don't be hating unless you're gonna hate with grace.