I take back absolutely everything I was going to say about this place having better general behaviour than WORA, and how it was unfortunate that all this good behaviour made it difficult to tell who was better off avoided.
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RE: The Apology Thread
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RE: Shadows Over Reno
To get all Nobody Asked You on this, methinks you're starting to protest too much.
Everyone has their own yardsticks for judging whether or not someone appears to be a player who takes care in playing well and enjoyably with others. In my experience, a desc is a very accurate 'hey guys, this is how much I care about my character and how much effort I'm gonna put into playing here' gauge. I have limited gaming time. I don't want to waste it.
Your mileage may vary. You don't have to care that other people see a short/unevocative description as a common trademark of lacklustre roleplay experiences, but it doesn't mean it hasn't held up more true than not for some.
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RE: The Apology Thread
Because there are people who get off on tearing apart others. 'This didn't sound heartfelt to me' somehow becomes 'I must pull apart this sham and expose it for others who don't see The Truth the way I do'.
Because the hobby is full of major malfunctions and some people lose their shit when someone who did them wrong dares to try to make right in a direction other than theirs, or brings an apology bouquet with petunias, and oh my god, Frank, I told you once in passing that I hated petunias, you're a waste of a human being.
To take the other side, most of us have had someone be breathtakingly horrible to us in this hobby. Sometimes, an apology unearths this, combines with seventeen random factors in your day, and you go off on someone because it feels good and/or feels like getting some of your own back.
If we were all perfect at making it clear when we meant 'in my opinion this is wrong' versus 'unarguably wrong', this forum would have nothing to talk about.
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RE: House Rules vs Rules as Written
@Derp said in House Rules vs Rules as Written:
If you DO enshrine them into formal legalese, then please, offer some elucidation on why you think this is so important it has to apply to all people forever.
This so much. If you can't clearly answer WHY, it should never be implemented.
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RE: The 100: The Mush
Staff needs to be very careful - stupidly careful - to avoid the accusations of favoritism.
Making an alt that wants to do all the things, instead of letting non-staff players handle it, is not the way to do this.
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RE: Star Wars: Insurgency
@TNP said in Star Wars: Insurgency:
Plots focused on the Rebellion will be for Rebel PCs, not Rebel FCs and others. If someone apps an OC X-Wing pilot who survived the assault on the Death Star alongside Luke, then that is what he shall be and that is what game 'history' shall be.
There's the automatic rarefied air that comes along with a FC right here in your explanation of how there's really no difference between Nameless Shlub and Luke Skywalker Who We All Know.
People want to play FCs because they are the heroes and the centers of attention, and not the masses of nobodies milling in the background to make their glamour shots happen. This is how they get played, and how they get treated, because /it's what they are/. There's no equalizing the playing field for Luke Skywalker vs. your 'OC X-Wing pilot' because they will never be the same thing, not even by your own description of them.
The people desperate to play the hero of the show are typically also the last people you want actually playing them, but that's probably a tangent for another time.
Like others, I think you are opening a very well-labelled Pandora's Box for no good reasons, but maybe you'll make it work. Best of luck.
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RE: The 100: The Mush
I think essentially what this distills down to for me is giving most people a fairish shot ICly and as @Miss-Demeanor has already noted getting a one note feral trick pony back every time.
My PC: Hello, how are you? What's your name? I'm Bob. Lol, we're in a forest. This is weird, right?
Their PC: SNARL SNARL FROTH FROTH ARRRRRAWRAWRAWRAW CUTTING INSULT SMIRKY SMIRK
My PC: Cool. Catcha... later?A few days pass.
My PC: Hello there again. Uh, are you interested in looking for wood for a fire with me?
Their PC: CUTTING INSULT SMIRKY SMIRK VEILED THREAT SNARL SNARL FROTH FROTH
My PC: Yeah.... uh. Peace.This nails it. I tried a Delinquent alt, and this is exactly what the experience was like. If there are, in fact, characters that don't lead with FUCK OFF YOU'RE NOT WELCOME, either they're never IC, or play exclusively with their own little circle.
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RE: The 100: The Mush
@TNP said in The 100: The Mush:
@Karmageddon said in The 100: The Mush:
- There seems to be a lack of friendly, welcoming PCs with whom they can interact.
Except, in my opinion, this is not the case at all.
In your opinion, this is not the case at all because Morgan is part of the cozy little group doing all the things. He has been in all, or nearly all, of the major event scenes (these same scenes almost always containing the same four or five PCs) and when he isn't cozied up with Cameron (another player who doesn't see the problem) is usually playing only with those other PCs.
It feels rather like that group is busy reassuring themselves that there's nothing wrong, to the point of a fairly ugly echo chamber.
edited to add: Despite this, whether my observations are true or accurate or not, it's a game I'm still trying to get traction on. I have issues with some things that are going on, obviously, but I also don't want to be solely on the dogpile side of things.
@faraday and others make a fair point that Staff should no more try to control asshole PCs than they should try to control friendly PC. However, there is also a game's overall health to consider. Do they want new players to stay and become part of the game? If so, there needs to be characters on the grid who do not lead with their worst behavior. Starting off can be uncertain and nervewracking for the best of us, and if your first steps on grid are greeted with FUCK OFF FUCKFACE RAR, it may be your last time on grid, too.
If there was an easy fix to this, we'd all be fat and happy on perfect games by now.
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RE: Issues with SimpleMu
@Sunny said in Issues with SimpleMu:
Dual input windows and pretty, pretty colors?
Every spawn window in SimpleMU comes with its own input area, so it has potentially many more than a 'mere' dual input windows.
Also, 'pretty, pretty' colours is very subjective. The times I have seen what people make when given more than the sixteen ansi colours, it's looked like My First Website circa 1998 or so. Your mileage may vary, but I MU* to play a text-based roleplaying game, not to see how many colours the staff can cram on the screen at once.
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RE: Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning
It appears more to be Round 452 or thereabouts of Theno using a half-million words where "Sorry, I was a dick," would suffice and serve him much better.
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RE: Shadowhunters MUSH
@Seamus
This is pretty disingenuous. There's a wee bit of a difference between 'I want Instagram in the Middle Ages' and 'I want a medieval theme with some of the unnecessary ugly attitudes reworked'. There are angelic half-breeds, so by definition it's not historically accurate / liberties are already being taken.
I guess persecution is important to include? But, if it IS important, why keep insisting that nah, it's not really there, it's totally cool to do whatever you want? That's shooting the theme in the foot before it's even out the gate, isn't it? Which, at least for me, brings it back around to: why include something in pretendy funtimes, that's real-life anti-funtimes for some of the player base, that could be written out?
Again, if this part of the theme is somehow intrinsic to the setting, go on with your bad self. Otherwise, I don't understand this weird 'we need bigots to make this story work but don't worry you'll never actually see them' doublespeak that happens when these theme points are questioned.
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RE: Dead Celebrity Thread
@Apu
He was /95/ and had a full and rich life. Unless the basic concept of death is enough to throw you into depression (and hey, it is for some), this is kind of the textbook example of a life worth saluting rather than mourning like an unforeseen tragedy.
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RE: General Video Game Thread
The writing for GW2 is really, really great at times. Even if you've got a favourite race that you plan to stick with, definitely check out the others for a few levels just to see what they're all about and gawk at their home cities.
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RE: +wantrp Command Suggestion
Because generally +bboards are a sucking chest wound of bad introduction posts, staff putting out fire long since burned through their course, and other stuff nobody really wants to read?
Even more sarcastically: another +bboard full of timed-out posts and no way to tell if the person asking for the scene ever got it /except paging them to do Round Seven Million of Surreality's dance/? Sign me up!
As I'm reading it, this is a suggestion being put forward that (1) isn't mired in mostly-useless means of communicating like a +bboard, and (2) isn't as high-pressure as a @mail. Mail is directly to you, no two ways about it, and it stares at you with its beady, judgy eyes. It's maybe even worse than Surreality's dance.
The suggestion sounds wonderfully low-key / zero pressure, which is the ideal ground to actually encourage people to pick up a loose thread and run with it. The requests for RP would be there to look at and nobody would ever have to know which ones you considered or didn't consider until you actually organized the scene with the person.
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RE: The Crafting Thread
@Ashen-Shugar said in The Crafting Thread:
I likely will forgive it eventually. If for no other reason than to remove that pit of acid festering in my own gut. I likely won't forget it happened... ever... but forgive I can perhaps pull off.
Reconciling it -- internally, not with him -- might be enough, too. At least, that's my own hope. My kid brother did some things following our mother's death that I'm not sure I'll ever be able to forgive, but like you, I'd like to find a way past that festering pit if for no other reason than the memory of my mom deserves more.
That might be word-quibbling over reconciliation vs. forgiveness, too. Either way, best of luck.
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RE: The 100: The Mush
Staff mentioned on the Public channel that they want to avoid seeming cliquish, too, which is funny in that not funny way. It would be easier to believe that they want to run the game for the players if their own characters weren't the stars in everything. It's pretty disappointing for a game that otherwise seems to have really good people.
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RE: The Apology Thread
I dunno. Expressing regret that you maybe got things wrong (according to The Collective Opinion Of Right And Wrong) or accidentally stepped on toes shouldn't ever be a bad thing. It shows you're thoughtful about making sure you're playing WITH others instead of AGAINST them, even if the definition of that turned out different between your hobbies and you didn't realize it until later.
There are some people on here who get off on tearing others into bloody ribbons just because they can. Moderating your behaviour because of them - other than 'note to self, never be like this person, ever' - would be kinda backwards.
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RE: +wantrp Command Suggestion
This is no time to respond sensibly to my flippant snarking, dammit.
How in the world is this bboard's fault?
Well, if it's not the bboard's fault, then it's the fault of /everyone who uses them/, which means the problem still comes back to the bboard. To use your hammers analogy, if you give everyone a hammer, but all they ever do is bash their thumbs bloody with it, maybe the solution is to stop trying to re-engineer the hammer and give them something else to use.
Bboards have always felt the very opposite of responsive to me. Maybe I've just had much poorer luck with them on games than you have.
Adding more plates for the smaller portions will not necessarily help. It may, but if you don't explore efficiency and effectiveness, you could be compounding the problem.
This is a fair point, too. Maybe a new system just has that new car smell going for it, and that's what makes it appeal more than fixing something that's already there.
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RE: The 100: The Mush
Since it appears that @ixokai will continue his routine until someone spells it out in small words, I'll be the one to do it.
You are part of the problem.
Go back through your logs, the logs of you out in public, and take a good look at how many of them are full of you telling other people to take their heads out of their asses for having the gall to disagree with your opinion.
You talk a very good talk on here about being willing to talk things over, but in fact pull this exact same routine (I don't see a problem, therefore you are wrong) with a side of passive-aggressiveness, when it's attempted.
If you don't realize you are coming across this way, I don't know what else to say.
You are a good roleplayer, but as proven in multiple points on this thread, some self-awareness would be an excellent addition to the Cameron/Que package.