Posts made by Gingerlily

I don't think we disagree @Thenomain, not on the fundamentals. The only real issue I have with the unfindable flag is when people gather in public places to participate in private rp, and hide out with it. If a place is public, its public. There are conversational ways to work it out if you want to run a scene there for a limited group that don't involve the unfindable flag, and there are ways to abuse the unfindable flag -in public places- that for me, just make having players use it willy nilly in spaces that are open to all -not- really fostering genuine role-play experiences. BUT as I said, I say that from a different place from lots of games, one with -plenty- of private areas in which to be unfindable for whatever reasons one chooses. If I truly felt that organic rp experiences were ruined by people not being able to hide out from the +where list while rping in a public garden or a tavern or whatever, I'd reconsider. I just have not yet come across these scenarios. If I do, I'd reconsider.

I think if your GAME cannot protect you from stalkers, if the people running it don't care if people are harassing you...then man, there have to be other games that don't have this issue. I know WORA (which this isn't) was a place that was often for complaining about egregious staff behaviors, but if that is still a problem on -every possible game- then woah. I'm not a WoD player much, I've dabbled here and there but never got sucked in, so some of the people that others are continuously nervous about (as players, as staff) I have zero experience with. But as a staffer who has had the rare, occasional issue of player to player harassment, I can say that I have never found it hard in the least to just shut that shit down.

Maybe because my games are smaller? I don't know. But it isn't hard to nip that in the bud in my experience (I'm also not headwiz, and headwiz often does the actual bud-nipping after we discuss what to do.) Play where you feel safe.

@Thenomain

I accept and respect that it is possible that some themes and settings require it or are enhanced by it. I haven't played on any such games so I don't know the hows or the whys, but people do what is best for their theme and their story and that is fine by me.

On the game I play/staff, it just isn't necessary very often. In a private place in order to try to keep people from figuring out who you are having secret political meetings with, yes. If people want to keep their 'romantic' relationships secret, sure. My stance is really about public places where anyone could be. If you are there, don't go unfindable with your three besties or your romantic partner to avoid others joining. Flag is off, public is public and there are SO MANY varieties of private places that you can make those kinds of scenes work somewhere else.

Hey, the first thing I have felt compelled to actually write a post about. Nifty.

I am with @Derp 100% on this one. Unfindables in your home/private space, so people don't know who are coming over to meet secretly with/plot the end of the world with/have the sexy times with....all good. But out in say 'the waffle house' the flags stay off. People need to know who is there so they can join rp, or plan there own rp in a different place, or whatever. Usually players are pretty reasonable I like to think (hope?) and if they enter a scene and do the standard 'mind if we join' but PC A and PC B are having an intense conversation they don't want overheard, or round 2 of one they started the other day, they can say "Actually we're sort of doing a thing that isn't easy to join now, do you mind leaving us to it?" And while it is POSSIBLE that player C could scream PUBLIC PLACE YOU ARE SO MEANNN, I've just never seen it happen.

Harassment is something else altogether, but all the more reason for it ON in public places. If Player D is someone you want to avoid, you want to know where he is if you are considering joining a group scene so you don't have to play with him. If Player D is stalking -you-, that's something the staff can handle.