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    Posts made by Pandora

    • RE: Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion

      @Auspice said in Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion:

      @Pandora

      I feel like the reasoning is supposed to be 'The people allowed on the server are so good and perfect they'd never ever do anything bad.' or something along those lines.

      Nah, @Kestrel is awful but not stupid. The server is going to be full of butthurt ninnies and that's just how the internet works in general, as @mietze just pointed out. I wanna know, will there be a rule added against unsubstantiated witch-hunts before or after someone's reputation is ruined by a scorned ex-TS partner? Will there be a policy in place about reporting instances to staff and not employing vigilante justice? Will there be rules against making bait-alts to get someone to do something skeevy '4 Tha Screenshot'?

      Like, make your group, but for the love of all that's good, holy, and well-thought-out, address these issues before your server full of unloaded issues goes full Katamari on some unsuspecting game.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion

      Tangential to the stated point of the 'community' but still relevant:

      Unsanctioned, staff-absent forums/servers are a breeding ground for misinformation, sometimes well-meaning bad advice, and sometimes manipulative BS. It's bad enough when it's just one private server of one new game that's gone fucking sideways(don't ask) but the idea of a bunch of people on a bunch of games zerging with an agenda sounds like a fucking wave of headache heading our way. I've said let's wait and see and I do intend to give it the benefit of the doubt, but I also said 'let's wait and see' before Hurricane Isaac had me grilling the meat in my powerless freezer in my backyard in 109 degree New Orleans weather while standing on a ladder because my house and yard were fucking flooded.

      TLDR; in case it was missed the first several times: I have not yet been presented with a realistic scenario for how this community isn't going to suck, and I would like a mildly constructive discussion of how this is going to work other than some lofty honor-system of vague, unenforceable rules.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion

      @Prototart said in Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion:

      oh good

      how the community has suffered for lack of a pillowfort

      This isn't even vaguely constructive, let alone mildly.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.

      Pretty sure sneezing is my body being mind-controlled by this virus to allow it to breed in someone else's upper respiratory system. My nose is being sexually assaulted by an unseen assailant. Can I call the police on a cold?

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Sexuality: IC and OOC

      @Goldfish said in Sexuality: IC and OOC:

      I identify as queer because I don't like the word pansexual for whatever reason. And saying "I really don't care who or what you are/identify as." is a lotta words. I'm also a cis woman of color. I'm a "tomboy" of sorts, raised by a mother with two brothers and a father with...more brothers! Big dick energy everywhere. I feel feminine in that down to your bones kinda way but I don't have traditional girly/feminine ways.

      And what do I play? White dudes, mostly. Usually straight-ish. I can't even think like a Kinsey 0. Even my straight guys will kiss a boy if the situation calls for it. But if I'm honest, I don't assign a sexuality to any character until it comes up in play. I like romantic RP and I'm not going to turn it down because I firmly decided that this character is straight as an arrow when conceived. And I am not here for the "Character X turned him gay" story. Nope. Pass.

      My last few attempts at playing a female have failed miserably. Like I can't even connect anymore Like women are some sort of mystery creature I can't fake. It's so weird. I try not to think too hard. I did first begin to play males as a refuge from skeevy male players after one too many bad experiences. And hey! This is why I've never played a lesbian. I assume that there is a dude behind the keyboard and he's just wants to fap. Logically, I know this is untrue. The guy who brought me into MUing was a dear friend who loved played females and sometimes they were lesbians and he was mostly normal.

      Still. Still.

      I feel all this, hard.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion

      @Tempest said in Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion:

      Strange question, considering that all those factors seem to apply to the community's creator, judging from the last thread.

      I assume that one's actual personality is meant to be left at the door, and the fake nicey-nice is meant to happen on the server. I just wondered what would happen if and when that facade crumbles in the face of a real disagreement in the ranks.

      They're going to sit around and knitting circle about somebody who took a position they wanted on some game or is TSing the person they want to fuck or w/e, and probably harass that person.

      I assume as much, and I've voiced my concern on this front. Only time will tell and you've got to give a new concept enough rope to swing for the moon - or hang itself.

      @Kestrel said in Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion:

      We currently have the following rules for our Discord server.

      What happens when someone breaks an unenforceable rule like #6? Or just in general? What crosses the line from 'honest mistake' into 'petty BS'? Who decides who stays and who goes? Is it a democracy? Will people be voted off the island if they're unpopular? Or is it a dictatorship, where people who don't conform to your standard of 'nice' are fucked even if they have something worth saying?

      Like, I'd personally never be vouched for by the crowd I expect this server to attract, even though I have plenty to say on the topic of discrimination in games and what can be done about it & have never actively discriminated against anyone on any basis other than being willfully stupid as hell.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Sexuality: IC and OOC

      I'm an openly and flamboyantly gay, black female. When I mentioned casually that Acheron and I were dating (this was like, 9 years ago, mind you) I had a male player flat out accuse me of lying and then go into some pseudo-academic rant about mixed race dating. I had female players 'jokingly' assert that I was being greedy by dating a guy when I'd previously only dated women as an adult.

      Discussing baby names OOC on Firan, I was informed by some old whore (that's how I think of her in my mind, 'some old whore') that naming my kid the name I'd chosen would 'make her gay'. My kid is non-binary and gives talks about gender identity in elementary school. If it was the name, OH WELL. I only mention this one because deep down it still bothers me, a lot. Keep your judgments to yourself, even if the name is Mabel or Gertrude, you just say 'Oh, that's pretty!' or keep your trap shut.

      I mostly play gay male characters. I usually play them on yaoi-based sites, and by tacit agreement, most people pretend to be male in real life. Openly female players are often shunned due to a lack of 'authenticity'. This leads to very weird shit, like dubiously-male players making assertions about masculinity that are often wildly off-base, and sometimes harmful or abusive.

      When I play gay male characters on a MU, no matter how openly gay they are, they're still hit on by females with varying degrees of aggressiveness, in what feels like a double-standard in that if a guy was actively pursuing a character that identified herself as a lesbian, he'd be considered skeevy. I've only heard the jokes about not having met the right woman yet IC, so no abuse OOC that I can recall.

      When I play straight male characters, life is great. Drowning in attention, can be as much of an asshole as I want free of most repercussions, and any IC or OOC blowback can be attributed to the other party being a hater. My OOC harem, unrecruited, will back my every utterance. Being 'male' and a decent writer will honestly get you wherever you want to go in this hobby because the dick-drought is real and it isn't going anywhere, any time soon.

      There is a pejorative term 'mesbians' that relates to male players playing their fetishized female lesbian characters that are usually some sort of 'exotic' mixed race of white + whatever, average height, average build (but with big tiddies) shuns makeup because she's a natural beauty, wears thigh-high stockings with every single outfit, reads comics, disdains monogamy, and is an expert combatant. (This is an oversimplification for the sake of KISS, and I mean no overt offense to anyone male/female/otherwise that plays these types of characters) When I play lesbians, I feel fucking weird because the lesbian community in many games is often made up of female characters that don't feel relatable to me personally, so I wind up with fraudulent lesbian characters that aren't attracted to most women in their vicinity.

      My straight female characters are almost universally spaghetti-sexual - they'd only be straight until they meet a hot female and things get steamy. That rarely happens, sadface. So if and when they wind up dating a guy, this introduces a whole new level of awkward. Will my natural tendency toward being the aggressor scare them off? (Not usually, but it's still a fear) Will they bring up the idea of threesomes way too soon because they're assuming it's what I'd want? (Far too often, but I feel like this is less to do with me, and more to do with people living out their best fantasy life) Step the awkward up a notch if the player knows I'm gay. Will they be gunshy about hitting on my character, thinking she's not interested? Will I be FRIENDZONED? These last two seem most common for me, mostly due to my habit of only really RPing with people I know.

      Needless to say, my female characters almost never get laid. There is much weird going on in my head & I feel like most people are female-ing better than me.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Intersectional MU* Community - Discussion

      How will your community handle the members that don't admit to biases regarding sex, nationality, health, or income, but are still raging assholes? Is it still a safe space if people are snide, two-faced, or judgmental, but not based on any factors other than the other person's personality?

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.

      @Tinuviel Context?

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.

      It's 10am, the moving truck will be here at 2pm, and my crippling laziness won't let me finish the last of this packing.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Historical MUSHes

      Once upon a time, I was told that my black female character couldn't be fae-blooded because 'there were no fairies in Africa'.

      Crushed.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Historical MUSHes

      @peasoupling said in Historical MUSHes:

      @faraday said in Historical MUSHes:

      What about something that just flat-out didn't exist, such as a female soldier serving openly (i.e. without disguising herself as a man) in a front-line regular unit of the Union Army?

      This cuts both ways. If you have female soldiers serving openly in front-line regular units of the Union Army, I can't play a female soldier disguised as a man. Not really.

      I upvoted this because I see where you're coming from, but there's a loophole. If there are female soldiers serving openly and being treated with disdain, and my female soldier is disguised as a man and reaping the benefits (respect, dignity, worthwhile assignments, remaining unmolested, etc) of her assumed masculinity, there's a story worth telling there. Will I stand up for these other women? Will I join in on the misogyny to be part of the boys' club? Will I sacrifice my pride as a woman to protect my cover as a man? And so on.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Historical MUSHes

      @Seraphim73 said in Historical MUSHes:

      @Saulot said in Historical MUSHes:

      @Seraphim73 I know I sound like a pessimist, but I don't think there is a happy medium. You gotta accept that you can't please both audiences, and will have to cater to one. I may be wrong since I haven't been mushing for long, and there may have been games that have accomplished it.

      I don't disagree. I think you have to pick somewhere on the spectrum (probably like 2/3 to 3/4 of the way in one direction or the other would be my guess) and then be very, very, very clear in the Mission Statement/Welcome where you're setting the game. For The Eight Sea (thanks @tek), for instance, we specifically said "We are playing a Hollywood version of history, with similarly Hollywood interpretations of real-world religions and myths" on the front page.

      As someone that gets 1-part-angry, 3-parts-sad when I see possibly-unintentional caricatures of 'historically-accurate' black people, this whole Hollywood-interpretations caveat thing has me readying the headache tablets and metaphorical Kleenex in preparation for a shit-show.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Historical MUSHes

      Historical accuracy isn't going to happen in the current era of gaming, where certain themes aren't allowed due to being A) unpleasant and B) a pain in the ass to moderate.

      There's also the fact that most people are not experts in one bygone era, let alone enough of them that they'd be able to just jump in and immerse themselves.

      There's also the fact that the average game-runner would run themselves ragged trying to correct unthematic behaviors, and likely wind up being accused of 'wrongfunning' their players. Alternatively, they can let things slide if they aren't 'too problematic' and that's how theme-slip begins and you wake up one day and your Period Drama has turned into a modern-day cosplay tea party.

      Also for most of history, people were really dirty, didn't wear particularly nice clothes unless they were rich or a whore, lice were more common than having all your teeth, and women were treated kind of like shit. So have fun making that game.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: RL Anger

      @Testament I'm not crying, my eyes are just sweaty. It'll be morning soon enough, and I'm here hoping it's something they can throw meds at, for both your sakes.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: MU Things I Love

      When your character meets another character purely IC, you've never spoken to this player before in your life. And they just click. On the same wavelength, with the same views, you find yourself nodding as you read their posts, and an adversarial group scene turns into some action-flick movie moment where the two of you are back to back, firing on all cylinders. Yes.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: How To Treat Your Players Right

      Would it be possible to allow players to log their pages during a session? The logs could be purged upon logging out if nothing amiss happened, but could be accessed by staff if a player flagged their attention to it.

      Making the process as hands-off as possible, without having to type up a complaint, and instead letting staff see for themselves what's happening, could help those people gun-shy about approaching staff.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: RL Anger

      When someone is both incorrect AND pandering, publicly accusing you of being 'confused' by a topic. And then you point out how and why they're wrong, and you get silence instead of any sort of admission of their mistake or for talking to you like you're stupid. It's these thoughtless little microaggressions that become one more straw on the camel's back.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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