@Selerik So, so many reasons I am glad things have changed since 20 years ago, and even more than 40 years ago. Seriously. Still miles from perfect, but goddamn.
I was 'lucky' that my mother was able to get the on-and-off-it-applies-while-we-decide-on-the-H diagnosis when I was tiny. She worked with kids as an occupational therapist and had the connections to make it happen, even if we still got jerked around for over a decade as science tried to make up its fool mind.
@Auspice While I don't know what KQ's example is... I suspect tossing all three of our fathers down a well to keep each other company might well be the best answer here.
While there are many, many stories about my father, I'm just going to sum up with this. When I was 20, and got diagnosed formally (again), and I had a therapist weeping on me -- she literally grabbed the psychiatrist from the next office and dragged him into the room to check my records, re-eval, schedule for a formal re-eval, etc. -- I was in shock. It was in my records going back over 15 years. No one had told me.
I was in shock, and I was fucking furious. My folks had known the whole time and 'didn't want to give me an excuse to slack', per earlier records the therapist thought I knew about. She didn't realize she was the first of a long line of folks like her to actually talk to me about these things like I was an actual person or something.
When I got home, I spent about five minutes sitting in the car to calm the fuck down. When I went inside, I -- no ragrets -- dropped the, "We need to talk," on my father.
He says, "Sure, what's going on?"
I remember the following exchange verbatim, because I wrote down his response five minutes later. Somewhere, in a sketchbook, it is reproduced in floufy calligraphy with swirls all over it, with a penciled caption/note at the bottom.
"So, I have ADD. You've known since I was in kindergarten. There are things I could have learned that would have helped. There are things I could have done, that you and Mom knew about, that could have tangibly helped, and instead, you both just let me believe I was nothing but a fuckup for fifteen years?"
Dad: "Well, you still were just nothing but a fuckup, so?"
The caption at the bottom of the page in pencil is -- this is more paraphrased since it didn't, you know, burn itself into my psyche like a foiled hot stamp --
Some people are never going to understand. Remember this, and try not to take their attitudes to heart.
To this day, in my 40s, I am still trying to do that.
First pre-coffee-kicking-in observation from me...
...pretty sure one of the reasons I love MU is that it being text-only makes it so much easier to focus on the words. Games with visuals? I get lost in/distracted by the visuals and forget the game part, and promptly die or get lost or eaten by robots/etc. (I can watch that stuff with someone else doing it as a zen background noise thing like whoa, though, and really enjoy that.)
Limiting it to text helps. It just does. And with wikis being prevalent now, there's still a visual reference and creative aspect. Wiki is like... the perfect blend of 'art + code' for me, since it involves problem-solving and visual creative foo thrown into a blender on frappe.
So this conversation has a home outside of snark-land, before disaster strikes. Pre-coffee, but it is what it is.
Experiences, coping mechanisms, relationship to the hobby, etc. 
No longer in the Pit, so refrain from any urge to be a giant asshole under pain of Ant-Man flying up your butt and getting really, really big all of a sudden.
Having to remind myself, yet again, that assuming the worst ugly shit of someone is more of a reflection on the one doing the assuming than the one they're making the assumptions about ever could be.
<eyes the vodka> You can't change the shitty aspects of human nature, but you can improve my mood.
I still secretly pine for the idea of the old rag-tag traveling space carnival game that was half FF, half Carnivale. Grid being the caravan of ships, and the 'worlds' on the fringes of settlements and colonies they visit to perform changing every so often as bare-bones spaces and mostly temprooms.
@WildBaboons said in SerenityMUSH - Discussion:
7 (7!) subskills for Run may be a little much.
I feel wayyyyyyyy less stupid about the shit I was designing now.
@Pandora I think it's more a case of 'of all the databases to steal, why steal one that you know has a zillion errors in it?', not so much the original creator/that person's typos/how they handled it. (I agree that it's a good way to handle it if you know it's an issue in your own work.)
I kinda think of this like the PMs on a place like this. They're more persistent, I gather that if the mods/admins need to access them for some reason, they can. If it doesn't bother me here? Doesn't bother me on a game, either.
@Ghost My main gripe has nothing to do with representation, actually. I'm 100% on board with irritation regarding the two brought up by Sparks and Aria, though, and how.
@Aria Same.
There is a message it sends that I also am really not at all cool with, that I don't think they intend, and it's especially heartbreaking to me, and I just... can't.
@Ganymede It's like the karma fairy brought extra presents today.
I have waited years for this moment. Decades, even.
It is glorious.
After 23 years of constant invasions by the husband while I'm trying to work and getting every train of thought hopelessly derailed in the process, having to keep him updated on a developing situation at home while he's away and getting:
"I love you but MUST WORK!"
@TiredEwok Seconded. Years back, tried this, same result. Cure was worse than the disease in a very real sense. Definitely worth checking out, and I hope other meds are tried. There's a reason we have a bunch of them as options now, this being a non-trivial one.
@Sparks They wrapped it up well and... at a certain point I pretty much expected this? But not the way they're going about it. Which is... augh, my heart. Those were my feels, show!!!
@Sparks ^ YES, ALSO THAT. I love that song because I'm an 80s nerd. 
All the crying, forever.
@Coin I'm never gonna forgive them for that no matter how good it was.
@Ganymede Apparently all of this came from a comment from the (invisible until quoted) KQ, not you.
ETA: Though, considering the source, countdown to 'no one would have quibbled if a man posted it!' in 3... 2... 1...
@Aria Yup, that. I have to be blunt, too, I am a non-fan of religion, and very much a non-fan of the Catholic church much of the time. I'm just not blind to the fact that these places hold significance to people that aren't tied to religion at all, and are much more about community and culture in a broader sense.
I don't think shaming people for caring about Notre Dame is in any way helpful to anyone. FFS. Why even.
