@Pandora said in Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning:
No one is being harmed
Grumble grumble "denotation" something something something "dark side"...
clique
klēk,klik
noun
a small group of people, with shared interests or other features in common, who spend time together and do not readily allow others to join them.
Mutter mutter "do not readily allow others to join them" grouse grouse grouse "get off my lawn".
@Pandora said in Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning:
Cliques
You know, you're pretty open and giving, Pandora, so I'd like to clarify that a true clique often segregates, or at the very least is non-inclusive. I get that you two aren't (or aren't apparently) talking about this kind of clique, but some other kind of grouping that isn't necessarily going to make it hard for others to get involved. I don't think anyone feels there are (negative/denotative) cliques anywhere on or about Arx.
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@Ganymede said in How Do I Headwiz?:
I would concur with that extension, mostly because I see any non-game-owner as a player, regardless of their assigned duties or lack thereof.
Do you remember long ago our argument of whether or not a staffer is a player? I know the discussion was more nuanced than this, but I too have adjusted my take on this. I still believe a staffer is "just a player with extra responsibilities", but what I consider a player as being has refined. I think we've met in the middle on this one, old lawyerbot.
To extend Gany's "this"...
@Ganymede said in How Do I Headwiz?:
Trust your players, but verify their claims.
Trust your staff, but verify their claims.
You can get away on a game not trusting your players (and players can get away not trusting their staff), but you cannot run a successful game if you don't trust your own staff, because every staffer is an extension of your game, and therefore a reflection of you.
Even the shittiest game runs better, even successfully, if all staff are on the same page, with the same goal, or enough trust to believe and back up the goals of their fellow staff. "Ashes to Ashes" lasted far longer than it should have because of this. "Dark Metal" worked because of this. Some of the shittiest, player-unfriendly staffers came from these games, but they were passionate about the game and worked together.
Strive to be better than this, but this is how low the bar really is. People will put up with a lot of crap, even appear to smile and nod to the staff to keep them happy and off their backs, if they get to play. But, yeah, be better than this.
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Brus (wherever he is) made this post long ago on WORA. It's one of the only things I bothered to dredge up from the old, messy flat-file. Not everyone agrees with it, but it's the most forward, most succinct, and most organized document of its kind I've ever seen: Brus' Five Pillars of Good Staffing.
Enjoy.
@Cupcake said in Considering Arx? Consider Deepwood!:
Our fatal flaw: wood puns.
Not mistaking the holdings for an 1800s Western?
... get it? Eh? Eh?!
@ThatOneDude said in RL Anger:
price of concessions
Who doesn't smuggle in candy and water anymore?
I will also cite "the experience" for why I like theatres. I don't have the same philosophical conversations after watching a movie at a friends house that I do after watching a movie; having the ushers wanting to throw you out because you're just sitting there talking about it is half the movie experience to me.
This is very much a part of a very old argument: Who gets to decide what art means? I bet you a dollar that had this been about Joss Wheedon, many of us here would be tripping over ourselves to defend him. We have already had this discussion while talking about fans getting angry at show creators for changing what they, the fans, expected. Who gets to decide?
I'm not disagreeing with anyone about what they believe the bull means. It's part of my dilemma. The man who created it was pulling from historical sources, out of his own pocket, to honor his adopted nation, I don't believe that anything he did was demeaning to women, so when someone is paid to say that he is, he has every right to be upset. He is essentially being given the middle finger other people co-opting his work. He wasn't even given a chance to clarify before this.
I truly believe that an artist has the right and sometimes the obligation to defend their thesis. Almost every art school drills this into them.
And this ties back to my RL Peeve above, that we can take this sense of equality too far. Are we? No, I don't think we are taking it too far, but I see shades of looking too shallowly at an issue because we don't like the original context.
Funny that the only person I agree with so far on this is the Communist. Meritocracy has serious, outstanding, dangerous issues. Nuff said.
@HelloProject said in RL Anger:
So what you're saying is that you hate CNN.
Considering how much CNN has a hate-on for Trump, I'm not saying this at all. CNN has never successfully pushed the Politically Correct line even if they seem like they want to.
Punching a nazi = bringing hate to solve hate.
Because punching a nazi is not equivalent to hate, it's refusing to tolerate bigotry or the abuse they would inflict if they had the opportunity.
Yeah. I absolutely hate bigotry and abuse, and choose to accept the use of violence to remove the source of that hatred.
No, I'm not being sarcastic, nor ironic, nor pedantic. I'm pointing out the imperfection of humanity and our ability to live with our own dichotomy. While I personally believe it's logical and acceptable to hate hatred, I'm more concerned that people are concerned for people at large and neither do too little for it, nor too much by trying to protect all views and ideologies as having the same moral weight.
@Sparks said in Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning:
@Thenomain said in Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning:
I looked for on the Arx and unofficial page, could've sworn all the help files were there, but couldn't find it. It might help the discussion if someone linked to the '+firstimpression' help file.
There is a page with all command helpfiles, from which +firstimpression is linked.
That's the one. Thanks. Generally when people ask how something works, I want to make sure they've seen the help file, and I'll be frank that the Arx web site is still rather difficult to navigate without a tour guide.
@Thenomain said in RL Anger:
In other words, "It's always okay to punch a Nazi" is a perfect example of bringing hate to solve hate.
This was sarcasm? Please tell me this is sarcasm. I honestly can't tell.
What about it do you hope to be sarcasm?
@HelloProject said in RL Anger:
Being like "I don't give a shit about other people's kids" is half the reason that anti-vaxxer shit is a thing, so it's hard to sympathize with it.
sigh
@Thenomain said in RL Anger:
It's not hard to understand, no matter what you say, even if it's stupid for the stage of evolution we need to be in.
Emphasis mine. You were demeaning Jim with how things can/can't be understood. I found that to be a particularly nearsighted way of looking at it. If you can understand why something is stupid, you can be better arguing against it, even when the parent gets into the knee-jerk yelling of "I Am A Parent How Dare You Tell Me How To Raise My Child".
edit: I cannot imagine the stress of being a parent. People who let themselves be flaming assholes (heh, "flaming assholes") should be pitied and, from the truly patient, helped.
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As far as my "human race" statement, I don't disagree that this is scientifically correct, I'm in particular mocking the way that certain people express the sentiment in certain contexts.
Oh yes, certain people in certain context are certainly idiotic. I love the "Colbert Report" attack of the "I Know a Black Guy, Therefore I'm Not Racist" statement. This in particular still needs openly mocked.
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In other words, "It's always okay to punch a Nazi" is a perfect example of bringing hate to solve hate. There is a time and a place to bring down the anger.
Incidentally: It's always okay to punch a Nazi.
I looked for on the Arx and unofficial page, could've sworn all the help files were there, but couldn't find it. It might help the discussion if someone linked to the '+firstimpression' help file.
@HelloProject
You do know that there is merit behind the phrase "I am not my brother's keeper", right? Take that to the extreme: "Who cares if you have health problems with your kid when I have to find ways to get mine to eat?"
Yes, there's a lot of selfishness in that, but humanity is from a species where concern of my pack informs a lot of the evolutionary things going on in our brains. It's not hard to understand, no matter what you say, even if it's stupid for the stage of evolution we need to be in.
Incidentally, I genuinely and non-ironicly believe the "only one race: the human race" thing you're mocking Jim over. I find this informed by scientific principles and my humanist atheism. Thanks.
@Auspice said in RL things I love:
I know Fearless Girl really upsets the artist of the Wall Street Bull, which makes me hate it more. I wish it'd be taken down.
I'm of deep conflict on it. On the positive side, it brings a needed conversation to the fore. (Would've been even better if the girl were hispanic or black.) On the negative side, exactly what you and others have said. Wall Street may have hated the Bull when it was first installed but it was done with love for America and has become a strong symbol for Wall Street and New York; the Fearless Girl demeans that love and has become a strong symbol for the more tolerable (1st and 2nd Wave) Feminism.
I hate that sometimes things are not black-and-white. I also love it. I try to be optimistic whenever possible. This may explain why I'm as miserable as I am.
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edit: In finding the image of the Peeing Pug, I did briefly note that Fearless Girl's temporary installment license has been extended.
I know. I mentioned it elsewhere, but it's still seen a guerrilla installment by many in the art community and news reporters. I think it's astroturfing, something meant to be grass-roots in style but is fake. Maybe you were replying when I was updating my post with that comment.
The Wall Street Bull was guerrilla art. The Fearless Girl was guerrilla art (tho some claim astroturfing). And now a statue of a pug peeing on the girl's foot, guerrilla art.
This is far more expensive than graffiti. A+
@Jim-Nanban said in RL Anger:
stop ruining this for the rest of us!!!!!
I'm going to make this my new position on all social issues.