@Roz said in Identifying Major Issues:
@Thenomain said in Identifying Major Issues:
I asked my Millenial co-worker how many people he knew would know how to make a secondary email for junk and things and things and junk, to separate their important stuff from other stuff, and he said about one third.
We here are generally very technical people. I expected him to say, "why would anyone have only one email address", but he didn't. I'm not using this as proof that two thirds of "kids these days" are not technically savvy, but as evidence that "not that hard" is a matter of great perspective.
Having multiple email addresses doesn't have to equal technically savvy.
This is why I don't like arguing with geeks. (Note: I am a total geek, and arguing with me is probably not fun either.)
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I asked my Millenial co-worker how many people he knew would know how to make a secondary email for junk and things and things and junk, to separate their important stuff from other stuff, and he said about one third.
You may disagree with my conclusion, but-- wait, I just saw this.
Did your coworker really say that only one third of millennials would know how to make another email address, or probably have a secondary email address for junk?
Let me say what happened in maybe a clearer way:
I asked him how many people he knew would know how to make a secondary email for junk, and he said about one third.
I know I'm being lightly sarcastic, here, but this is how The Telephone Game starts. I'm terrible at reading comprehension sometimes, myself. I recalled the entire conversation we had, if there's question that I was going into great detail with him. I did not.
I do know plenty of non-tech savvy millennials, but I still think most of them would know how to sign up for an email address.
But how many know that they know, how many would know how to set up and manage multiple accounts with their email client, or know how to find a better client that would do this? How many would give up before getting that far? We have been talking about the barrier of entry, and my repeated point is that "if you don't want to give out your email then just do this incredibly simple thing" is not logically consistent for how difficult people may find it to be, that it may be easy for us but not talking about it because we find it easy and therefore everyone else will find it easy is not good logic.
It's pretty crappy logic.
edit: Worse, it's absolutely horrible design, and can run very counter for recognizing issues.
The bottom line is that @surreality is building a game with certain functions and a level of wiki integration that requires an email.
The bottom line is that @surreality has said on more than one occasion that many functions she can see using are OPT IN, and I have no problem with this. It's not her specifically that I'm talking to (again The Telephone Game rears its ugly head). That said...
If folks have strong objections to using an email, personal or burner, they can play other games and it's not a big deal.
It's not, and I admit this openly and freely and repeatedly. I think it's a stupid thing to need as described almost every occasion in this thread, but that's not the same issue as I'm defending above.