Posts made by Thenomain

@kitteh

I had this whole thing typed out, read it over, and I came off as really preachy. (I know, it's hard to believe, isn't it?) Instead, here's a short answer:

Hidden number systems push the drama of another sort (I'm told that in the Walking Dead TV series some guy was thought to have The Cure and he was lucking out bluffing the whole time), and I think that FS3 is not meant to be a tabletop/wargame simulator like D&D. It's possible that you want a game system with more openness and therefore have two unfortunate options. 1) Don't play FS3 games. 2) Find a coder who can tweak the--knowing Faraday, probably extremely easy--changes needed to expose the numbers. Like, if anyone's even looked at my stat system they will look at Faraday's and say, "Why can't Theno do things this easily?!"

Because reasons, that's why.

@Tinuviel said in The Apology Thread:

Is this a totally mage-centric issue, or more an issue regarding the instant escalation of any conflict to murder-death-kill?

I believe that it's an issue of people using the game to its best statistical advantage. After all, that's what you do in games, right? But you got it right; nobody wants to play with a Sherlock Holmes in the middle of their CSI.

@The-Tree-of-Woe said in The Apology Thread:

@HelloProject In my experience it can be a long fucking list that's subject to change but might just have "your splat existing at all" on it.

Unless you are already part of that sphere, never deal with (WoD/CofD) Mages.

Ever.

For anything.

Don't kill them, you will be found.
Don't bind them, you will be found.
Don't befriend them, you will be found.

If you find your character has gotten involved with Mages, smile politely and find reasons to be elsewhere. If you are questioned about why, feign ignorance.

I feel that (again WoD/CofD) Vampires can be a close second to this, but Mages take the cake, the whole cake, and demand that it's theirs and no one else's.

I don't know why this is. It's just how many players of these splats seem to be, and it just takes one to decide to make you their special project.

Sorry, I got off topic there, but nnnnngh.

Turn off log-in notifications.

Bboard listing? Off.
Jobs spamming? Off.
@mail? Off.

Let me decide what demands my attention instead, or at the very least don't say that there's nothing there if there's nothing there.

@Vorpal

I tried the gay choices in...oh, I can't remember what it was, but it was the same if you were male or female. Who wants that? And yet, this game wasn't finished so I'm disappointed but not surprised that we didn't get more interesting characters.

Sick Until Proven Healthy.

Easy.

A centaur wouldn't.

@faraday

Or take apart +who and +finger. Almost everything you will do with Mu* is learned with what +who, +finger, and various building projects do, then ask the local coder if you don't understand something.

But yeah, also learn a real language.

I always play on normal difficulty because I want to /beat/ the game, not just observe the art of the 'Game Over' screen.

@Sparks

Okay, Humpty Dumpty, you just defeat my dictionary learning with your real-world shenanigans.

Sheesh.

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@Ganymede said in State of Things:

So, it's sort of frustrating when "the bastions of free market capitalism" fail to understand that the "free market" only works where everyone gets rewarded for their labor.

I laugh because the free market only works within a set of limitations.

@Ganymede said in State of Things:

Or that religious people cannot embrace science.

That's the beauty of the scientific method; it doesn't care who embraces it. In fact it works better if everyone is allowed to embrace it.

@Derp

And if you're running large data sets? Hooboy!

@Arkandel said in State of Things:

To me the "All People Matter" peeps sound as absurd as following cancer awareness campaigners around trying to hijack them with all-disease awareness slogans.
Like, dude, what are you doing?

Because we can sympathize with cancer. We know what a disease is by experience, and we can extrapolate.

What many of us can't do is know what it's like to live as a different human being. This is a social engagement that we can't just walk into a different neighborhood and go, "Holy smokes, so this is what being discriminated against is like!" No, what the human mind seems to do is to respond with, "Man, those Others, they're such jerks!"

The "Others" are those who look different than you. We're wired that way; it's a survival tactic. Stay away from the person who acts different because it could be a disease, it could mean they don't understand our ways and are going to hurt our ability to survive. Thanks to Fucking European Fucking Colonialism, we didn't give it up until a scant 152 years ago.

Er, sorry, I meant 72 years ago.

Shit, I meant 63 years ago.

Maybe two years ago?

Wait, I meant ... maybe never?

Point here is that it's easy to sneer at the people who are for something you think is Wrong(tm), but until you understand their position I don't think it's possible to argue against it or resolve it.

@Templari said in CofD and Professional Training:

I do not see the need to debate the merit. It was never intended for supernaturals to have. Specifically this was a hunter merit to level the playing field slightly. For the most part supernaturals still have the bigger upper hand. After all they are supernatural, go figure.

Unfortunately, in the next edition of the game, Chronicles of Darkness, they made Professional Training a core merit. Theoretically, anyone could take it. Practically, I felt that it left the same arms race feel that the various Resource traits did, like Luxury.

I kind of like what Fallen World did with Professional Training, and that was it could not be higher than (5 - Your Power Trait).

@golgoth said in Digger: A graphic room editor for MUX/MUSH:

/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/

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I went into the 'site-packages' directory for Python3 and copied PyQt5/ to Python2's. Hey, at least it's now failing creatively:

$ python main.py 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "main.py", line 8, in <module>
    from PyQt5 import QtCore, QtGui
ImportError: dlopen(/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt5/QtCore.so, 2): Symbol not found: _PyBytes_AsString
  Referenced from: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt5/QtCore.so
  Expected in: flat namespace
 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt5/QtCore.so

I have tried and failed to install PyQt4 from the official site, as it complains that it can't find qmake, and I can't find an install for qmake except via the qt-devel library. Until I become a more capable developer, I will now leave this in the hands of other people, and let this thread get back on track.

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For those now afraid to try out Digger, I am only having these issues on macOS. Try it out!

Ongoing Adventures In Hobby Developers Doing Professional Development
(macOS Sierra Edition)

So the fun of package managers that are not baked into the operating system is that they like putting things in their own little world. Because Homebrew bottled its own Python3, it knew where to put PyQt5 (and yes, it's 5). Because Apple's Xcode installed its own version of Python2, then Homebrew didn't clobber Apple's installation.

$ cd /usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.6.1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6/site-packages
$ ls
PyQt5					pkg_resources				sipconfig.py
__pycache__				setuptools				sipdistutils.py
easy_install.py				setuptools-32.2.0-py3.6.egg-info	sitecustomize.py
pip					sip.pyi					wheel
pip-9.0.1-py3.6.egg-info		sip.so					wheel-0.29.0-py3.6.egg-info

Yup, there it is. But there is pip, too, so if I try to use pip to install PyQt it will just go into the Python3 repository.

So let's ignore Xcode and install our own Python 2:

==> Caveats
Pip and setuptools have been installed. To update them
  pip install --upgrade pip setuptools

You can install Python packages with
  pip install <package>

They will install into the site-package directory
  /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages

See: http://docs.brew.sh/Homebrew-and-Python.html

This says something disturbing...

site-packages and the PYTHONPATH
The site-packages is a directory that contains Python modules (especially bindings installed by other formulae). Homebrew creates it here:

$(brew --prefix)/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages
So, for Python 2.7.x, you’ll find it at /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages.

Cool!

$ cd /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages
$ pwd
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages
$ ls
appdirs-1.4.3.dist-info		pip				setuptools-35.0.2.dist-info	six-1.10.0.dist-info
appdirs.py			pip-9.0.1-py2.7.egg-info	sip.pyi				six.py
appdirs.pyc			pkg_resources			sip.so				six.pyc
easy_install.py			pyparsing-2.2.0.dist-info	sipconfig.py			wheel
easy_install.pyc		pyparsing.py			sipdistutils.py			wheel-0.29.0-py2.7.egg-info
packaging			pyparsing.pyc			sitecustomize.py
packaging-16.8.dist-info	setuptools			sitecustomize.pyc

Where the hell is PyQt? Maybe if I run it from the Homebrew install location:

$ cd /usr/local/Cellar/python/2.7.13/bin
$ ./pip install pyqt4
Collecting pyqt4
  Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement pyqt4 (from versions: )
No matching distribution found for pyqt4
$ ./pip search pyqt4 
[...]
PyQt4 (4.11.4)          - Python bindings for the Qt cross platform GUI toolkit

Not sure what to do at this point. Will continue to prod and grind.

@golgoth

Oh fuck me.

I deleted and replaced the folder in the macOS GUI, but didn't re-enter the folder in shell. Starting from scratch, I no longer get the indentation error.

I am getting an error finding PyQT4, but I'm checking out some possible solutions from Stack Overflow. I will post when I find the best Mac install solution for this.

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edit: Here's the error. I think the Homebrew package sets itself up for Python3, not 2.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "main.py", line 7, in <module>
    from PyQt4 import QtCore, QtGui
ImportError: No module named PyQt4

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edit edit: No, the Homebrew package for PyQT4 says it will install for both Python2 and Python3. Will need to dig deeper.

Plus One Million to @Ghost for starting this thread derail.

I also don't think we should get caught up on any one expression of social upheaval. The cover of Time Magazine is "Attack of the Billionaires" or something like that. There's a Men's Rights documentary made by a feminist that also features how some feminists are almost militantly against a group who has literally done them or theirs no harm. (Yes, I watch Shoe On Head. No, I'm not a fan. Yes, she does offer some points that are not commonly discussed which I think should be.) We have the media trying to do too much with too few resources or care. We have Anonymous.

I like @Rook's summary that we are more capable of sharing ideas than ever, and it's been a long time since I've seen the USA eager to do so. Some of the ideas might be stupid, but we can respond to that, too. (Thank you, Neil deGrasse Tyson, for leading one of the charges.)

Part of why I'm excited is because I feel that we haven't had a lot in the way of "The Commons" or a desire for conversation. I see so many people yelling that they're getting tired of getting yelled at and it's starting to get through thick skulls. We may need to see more violence before it starts to calm down, or some true horror like War With North Korea, which would shake up the entire world. I don't want to see these things, but I can see them happening.

@Ghost said in State of Things:

• All people matter

This makes me think of two pretty different things.

1. Everyone gets a trophy for participating. I grew up at the beginnings of this and I think it eventually undermined the reward of effort. There must be a reward of effort (he says, as a strong opinion). All people matter in the way that I believe the American Founding Fathers meant: Here's your opportunity, and everyone gets the same one. I think this means that we must use the tyranny of government to assure that everyone has the same reasonable chance to flourish.

2. Black Lives Matter. It took me a long time to understand why the response of "All Lives Matter" to this movement pissed off so many people. It's not that all lives don't matter, it's that Black Lives Matter was the part of the discussion that they wanted to have; having someone tell you that you're being selfish when your attempt is benevolent is pretty sucky, and so the movement felt undermined and manipulated. I don't blame them.