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[Roz]

@Arkandel said in Good TV:

GoT - no spoilers, just a bit of trivia I read last night!

Apparently Bronn and Cersei's actors contractually can't share a scene, since their actors went through a bad breakup iRL years earlier and they wrote that into their contracts that they can't share the screen.

Seeing your hated ex every day you go to work for years must be awkward!

It seems like that contract would mean they don't see each other every day! Or, in fact, almost any day at all.

[Lisse24]

@Arkandel said in Good TV:

GoT - no spoilers, just a bit of trivia I read last night!

Apparently Bronn and Cersei's actors contractually can't share a scene, since their actors went through a bad breakup iRL years earlier and they wrote that into their contracts that they can't share the screen.

Seeing your hated ex every day you go to work for years must be awkward!

That just makes me want details. How bad can a breakup be that you can't work with the guy for any amount of time even years later?

[Arkandel]

@Lisse24 C'mon, people here have a spat about some character and hate each other for years. Imagine if your ex took your dog on the way out the door.

[tragedyjones]

They even lampshaded the Cersei/Bronn thing last night.

[surreality]

@Arkandel Well, yeah, but none of us are getting paid the "big" HBO bucks (and substantially bigger fame) as a reward for having to stand in the same room as the people we can't stand.

Shit. I would gleefully play evil queen torture-happy smugbutt at Rex or Jeurg for free if my profession demanded it, man. Being paid for it would just be a fucking bonus.

"I am just getting into character. Method acting." <cough>

[Kanye Qwest]

I have HEARD (IE read, the hearing you do with your eyeballs) it's actually that Bronn's actor is still kind of crazy for her and seeing her be chummy with other people on set gets him all spun up and angry.

[surreality]

@Kanye-Qwest All the hells no. Definitely under the heading of 'nobody has time for that shit'.

[Arkandel]

All this stuff must be fun/notfun in show business since they're (apparently, at least that's my understanding) a pretty incestuous community in terms of people hooking up with each other.

So for this one to be an issue big enough to end up getting explicitly written down in contracts somewhere you know it's gotta have been baaad.

[Arkandel]

Oh doublepost! It also means Bronn has got to end up north in the next season no matter what since he can't have scenes with Cersei. He needs to be where the rest of the cast is.

[Kanye Qwest]

Jaime is going north. (I think.) Tyrion is going north. Cersei is certainly not buying Bronn of the Blackwater a castle. He is so going north with his bros.

[Wizz]

I gotta say, I was really impressed with Cersei's twist at the end of the episode. If there is one character on the show who has pretty legitimately stayed true to the general stubborn shittiness of actual human beings and portrayed how someone can absolutely slow-burn their own self destruction over the course of a lifetime, it's her. She's one of the core elements of the show that has stayed consistent and very "Game of Thronesy" the entire time.

[Three-Eyed Crow]

@Wizz
What's funny to me about Cersei's arc is that she's a much better character on the show, imo, than she is in the books. I feel like most of the characters became less interesting and nuanced with the adaptation to varying degrees (which is pretty normal for when something gets translated like this), but Cersei in the books always struck me as shallow and kind of dumb. I disliked her more and became less interested in her once we got into her PoV chapters. On the show, she's gained a depth that's helped salvage a lot of the plot contortions this season for me. A lot of the credit is due to Lena Headey's performance, since the individual beats she's had aren't hugely different than they are in the novels. Great stuff. Hoping she gets an Emmy out of this before the series is out.

[Kanye Qwest]

Almost all the female characters are ten times better on the show, but I agree about Cersei. I think she has stayed consistent and never LIKABLE but at least understandable. The horrible things she does (and is willing to do) are always in the service of her deluded need to 'pay her debts' and be a badass Lannister like her father.

[Wizz]

@Three-Eyed-Crow

100% agree. I actually find a lot in the books cringe-worthy and gross (in the way GRRM did not intend) and I kinda gave up on the series before the show came along, Cersei being one of the reasons. Dude just did not know how to write her headspace and her chapters were always a struggle to get through, for sure. I was always like, "come on, this is not a person." I honestly think it comes back to how difficult it can be for men to write women.

[Kanye Qwest]

Yeah GRRM cannot write a fully-personated woman to save his life. Luckily, his life does not depend on it!

[Faceless]

@Kanye-Qwest said in Good TV:

be a badass Lannister like her father.

I miss him so much.

[Arkandel]

@Faceless What I miss is political subtlety. Don't get me wrong, I really loved the season so far because they get to play with all those toys Martin has given one by one - and I could really not care less about nitpicking of the "how fast do ravens fly??" variety - but it's more about wide brush strokes and big battles than backroom dealing, clever betrayals and outmaneuvering.

In that environment though some of ASoIaF's greatest characters like Varys or Littlefinger really don't have much to do. Even Tywin would have found it tricky to thrive without focusing on him more as a military than a political figure.

[Faceless]

@Arkandel I do miss that as well. But within the story of the GoT television series, I think we're still seeing some of that. Or at least had some glimpses of it this season . It's just taken on a new face. It's less subtle and more blatant. As the various wars blazer hotter, the subtleties are likely to fall to the wayside.

Except Cersei. Cersei dgaf. And that's why she makes me happy.

[Arkandel]

@Faceless Well, the narrative is pretty much leading there. When the plotline is "we need dragonglass weapons to fight the army of snow zombies led by a 12,000 year old lich king" it's just not very useful to be the guy who whispers into the right ears. I get that.

But I can still miss it.

[Faceless]

In other Good TV news. I was listening to the Mr. Robot soundtrack for season 1.

It recommended for me, probably because I listened to it in the past, the soundtrack for The Following.

There's a Good TV show that I miss: The Following.