My Adventures in Explaining the Stress of Staffing (To a non-Geek)
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@tragedyjones said:
If City of Heroes was returned to the world I would never talk to you ducks again.
It's on Steam.
Y'all finished or y'all done? I ain't go no more talkin'.
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@Huzuruth said:
@tragedyjones said:
If City of Heroes was returned to the world I would never talk to you ducks again.
It's on Steam.
IE: GTFO, STFU. o/
EDIT: To be clear, that was meant to be a joke. I laughed when Huzuruth posted exact directions on how Tragedy could exit, stage left.
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@Coin said:
I am, as far as I know, the only MUer in my country. Not my city, my country. So while I cherish the friendships and connections I make with people who RP online with me, I'll never really get to experience connecting with the people who share my hobby in a face-to-face way that's anything more than temporary and transitory.
Itās funny how I feel kind of just the opposite about MU* friendships. I think if anything this is a medium that can make for particularly meaningful interactions. Like others have said, it requires a lot of time, so youāre likely to spend a good chunk of it with the same people in your group. And beyond time, I think thereās something about the nature of the internet that tends to make people say things that they probably wouldnāt if they were in the same room with people, as anyone who has been in an OOC room anywhere ever and cringed going āhow is this person saying all this to utter strangersā can attest to. And beyond all that, I think working on something creative with other people breeds intimacy. This may not be high art, but it is highly creative and invariably you end up putting a lot of yourself into your characters and plots. So constant exposure + open communication + creative engagement I think can really make for some fairly significant friendships. I have lots of RL friends in my immediate area and Iām pretty social, but I see my online friends more and I would even wager that ādeep and meaningfulā conversation is more common with my online friends than my RL friends. I dunno! Iāve known @Thenomain and @Wretched for years and years at this point and I love them dearly and that was true even for the big chunks of that I wasnāt MU*ing, even though weāve never met in person.
@Arkandel said:
And with some effort you can create entire worlds, taking anything from the pages of a book, the small/big screen or just your imagination and giving it a chance to become an immersive interactive environment shared with other people. That's pretty special.
Yes this. I think MUing is unique in a lot of ways. I am surrounded IRL by people that work in video games and have pretty much unlimited access to whatever I would want in that arena and nothing else is at all like MUing. I can enjoy a video game sometimes, but its really not the least little bit comparable to MU*ing for me.
That being said, I donāt talk about MUing to my RL friends because itās very hard to explain. Very very. I suspect itās really not for everyone and that you have to do it to understand it.
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@Huzuruth said:
@tragedyjones said:
If City of Heroes was returned to the world I would never talk to you ducks again.
It's on Steam.
I actually checked, you ass.
āIf you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.ā
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Yeah. My dumbass got mixed up. It was Champions Online.
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@Eerie said:
@Coin said:
I am, as far as I know, the only MUer in my country. Not my city, my country. So while I cherish the friendships and connections I make with people who RP online with me, I'll never really get to experience connecting with the people who share my hobby in a face-to-face way that's anything more than temporary and transitory.
Itās funny how I feel kind of just the opposite about MU* friendships. I think if anything this is a medium that can make for particularly meaningful interactions. Like others have said, it requires a lot of time, so youāre likely to spend a good chunk of it with the same people in your group. And beyond time, I think thereās something about the nature of the internet that tends to make people say things that they probably wouldnāt if they were in the same room with people, as anyone who has been in an OOC room anywhere ever and cringed going āhow is this person saying all this to utter strangersā can attest to. And beyond all that, I think working on something creative with other people breeds intimacy. This may not be high art, but it is highly creative and invariably you end up putting a lot of yourself into your characters and plots. So constant exposure + open communication + creative engagement I think can really make for some fairly significant friendships. I have lots of RL friends in my immediate area and Iām pretty social, but I see my online friends more and I would even wager that ādeep and meaningfulā conversation is more common with my online friends than my RL friends. I dunno! Iāve known @Thenomain and @Wretched for years and years at this point and I love them dearly and that was true even for the big chunks of that I wasnāt MU*ing, even though weāve never met in person.
But none of that is mutually exclusive to what I said. I was just focusing on what is missing from those relationships, while you're focusing on the good aspects. I was saying "for every pro, there is a con" and you're saying "for every con, there is a pro".
As in multiplication, the order of the factors does not alter the product.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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Okay fair, you're just Eeyore and I'm Tigger. At least we can both agree that you are, without question, a complete and utter jerkface.
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@Arkandel said:
follow causes of the week from their couch ("fuck big business, man!")
Yeah, how dare those people! Having political opinions and everything! We should drag them off their couches and put them in gas chambers, or something.
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@Huzuruth said:
It's on Steam.
Wait what? I thought all the servers and everything got shut down?
Yeah. Went on steam in 2009 or something, then in shut down in 2012.
There's an interesting kickstarter that ended but seems to be still active in producing some sort of spiritual successor.
I do rather miss my little mastermind.
"Why aren't you fighting?" the party leader screamed, dodging another small missile.
"Fighting?" The Red Rasper sniffed. "Do be serious. I have people for that." Her wrists flicked vaguely toward the onrushing robotic horde. Suddenly, ninjas-- ninjas everywhere. -
@Thenomain said:
I actually checked, you ass.
I wonder how many of us did, without even reading the rest of the thread.
Really says something.
Also, yay ass.
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@Three-Eyed-Crow said:
I'm 90% sure that continuing to MUSH actively is the reason I never got into subscription-based multi-player games like WoW.
I could never get emotionally involved in WoW. There really isn't any coherent story arc and the hack-and-slash was a unsatisfying mixture of dry intellectual challenge and pre-training combat combos.
Now, single player RPGs (e.g. Skyrim) ... those do sometimes rival MUing. It may lack the social element, but at least there's a semi-coherent story.
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I finally broke down and bought DA:Inquisition, and it is definitely taking a chunk out of my timewaster hours.
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I just bought FF VI on sale for my iPad. And I'm getting FFT: TWotL for it too. Hurray!
