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Arkandel

Hey @Coin, here is the cast to Captain America: Civil War.

tragedyjones

Spider-Man will be in the film per Sony.

Royal

@tragedyjones said:

Spider-Man will be in the film per Sony.

Because Sony needs that monaaaaaay(They also may have realized they suck at this movie gig).

Coin

I think the best thing they could do right now is use Peter Parker for the movies. Once they have 3-4 Spidey movies out (and he has appeared in larger, team-based films, like he most likely will in Infinity War and whatever comes after) they should gank his ass and then make a Miles Morales Netflix series. That would be amazing.

Hopefully, the Netflix series will all hit as hard as Daredevil did, and they'll get even more of them out there. I would love to see a Runaways and Young Avengers Netflix show. Fuck, Runaways is practically designed for Netflix-style production, and if they can get enough SFX budget to do Karolina and Old Lace consistently? Fuck. Yes.

As it is, it looks like Chris Evans is so done being Captain America that he might not make it to Infinity War; it might be Bucky instead, which I am fine with. I want to see Captain Marvel and Black Panther roll up on this bitch, though. And Inhumans is so far away my brain bleeds every time I think about it, because I am a Black Bolt fanboy at heart.

Arkandel

My main concern, and I had it for Avengers 2 as well, is that they are throwing so many super-heroes at the screen. So very many. The movies need a chance to breathe and develop them as characters, else they're just a bunch of A- and B-listers in weird costumes throwing a couple of lines before the next special green-screen fight comes up.

I mean in my favorite Marvel movies it was the downtime I really enjoyed, such as that road trip in Cap 2 with Steve and Natasha or the 'mortal' bits with Thor in his first movie. Then again who knows, Cap 3 could be awesome because and not despite all those characters.

Coin

I agree with you. At the same time, I think it is important to recognize that the intent of these movies is by and large not some sort of character development.

Let's put the cards on the table: Marvel wants to make money, Disney wants to make money, and this formula is working. People want to see all these A- and B-listers on screen shouting one-liners before fucking up some green screen monster. I think it's important to stop looking at these movies as individual products and seeing the entire franchise as one huge enormous production. Age of Ultron was pretty much entirely about the fighting, yes--but we had a Hulk movie, three Iron Man films, two Thor movies and two Captain America ones beforehand to breathe life into the characters. The movie was a climax.

If you stop watching them as individual products and see them in their entirety, it makes more sense. I'm not saying it should or that that's good, but it does.

It's just hard because there's so much time between each one.

Arkandel

@Coin Yeah, and those guys (and gals) aren't getting any younger. These aren't the comics, people actually age.

Coin

@Arkandel
Yeah. Which is why after only two adventures, the Avengers are already being replaced by an almost entirely new team. It feels weird for a omic book lover, but when you look at the time that has gone by, it certainly computes.

tragedyjones

Not like the idea of a frequently shifting roster wasn't always an Avengers thing anyway. Though I am disappoint we won't get Cap's Kooky Quartet.

Arkandel

I doubt the 'rotating roster' will really be a thing for movies, ever. I mean sure, it works in the comics but the film industry itself is based on stars who put ass to seats. RDJ does that; the guy who plays Falcon doesn't. Or Don Cheadle is a great actor (and much fun to watch in House of Cards) but he's not a megastar to base a $100 million movie on. He could, but they'll not give him the chance to do it. It's just not how Hollywood works.

And yes, I know when Iron Man came out RDJ's career wasn't going well, or that Hemsworth or Jackman were basically unknowns when they first put on the costumes but they already had that... whatever it is that makes a star quality.

Coin

@Arkandel said:

I doubt the 'rotating roster' will really be a thing for movies, ever. I mean sure, it works in the comics but the film industry itself is based on stars who put ass to seats. RDJ does that; the guy who plays Falcon doesn't. Or Don Cheadle is a great actor (and much fun to watch in House of Cards) but he's not a megastar to base a $100 million movie on. He could, but they'll not give him the chance to do it. It's just not how Hollywood works.

House of Lies, bro.

Arkandel

WHATEVER, @COIN!

Coin

@Arkandel said:

WHATEVER, @COIN!

I'm sorry, I'm just trying to make you accurate. It's daunting, though.

HelloRaptor

@Arkandel

And yes, I know when Iron Man came out RDJ's career wasn't going well, or that Hemsworth or Jackman were basically unknowns when they first put on the costumes but they already had that... whatever it is that makes a star quality.

Being white, male, and moderately to very attractive?

Arkandel

@HelloRaptor It apparently helps, yes, unless you've won an Oscar in the last couple of years or your name is Denzel.

tragedyjones

For those who care, Marvel put up the covers to 40ish of their upcoming post Secret Wars titles for October:

Roz

I'm just going to take Marvel's events away from them for several years. HEAR THAT, MARVEL. SEVERAL YEARS. STOP HAVING CONSTANT EVENTS.

ThatGuyThere

@Roz
I am with you there. The constant events is most of why I stopped reading new comics. The lost all sense of actual storytelling to me. Instead of building up a world it was major event after major event till I realized I had stopped caring about any of it. I never minded cross overs, hell some of my favorite stories were crossovers but Marvel went way overboard,

Coin

DC went way overboard, too. That said, of these titles, I am excited for:

Amazing Spider-Man, Spiderman, Deadpool, Karnak, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Spider-Man 2099, Totally Awesome Hulk, Ultimates, Web-Warriors, and possibly some others.

Carnage? Really? Well. Okay, then.

I am waiting for Secret Wars to end so I can read it all in one go.

Arkandel

What bugs me about events is that they keep rebooting characters and replacing them with newer, temporary versions. I hate that.